Going waaay back

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I noticed that on the UDE judge's list they stated they're trying to go back and answer old questions that hadn't been replied to yet. It must be so, it was a loooonnnng time ago I posted a question regarding Staunch Defender....long enough ago that the latest ruling on Staunch Defender was that it tured all the attacking player's monsters to attack position (we know this not to be true but an ancient post on a very old judge's list that some of you old timers will remember stated as such)

This question was finally answered! (regarding when Staunch Defender's effect ceased) My next question in reply was does Staunch Defender set up a condition upon it's resolution to the field (I'm assuming it does) We all know what questions come from cards that set up "conditions"

Anyway, just found it interesting they've kepth some VERY old questions and are now addressing them. With the addition of another person in the rules dept. they must be seeing their way clear to have time to do so....nice to see.
 
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Hmm, at first I thought that was kind of silly. But then I thought, maybe playing catch-up is better strategy for them to prevent questions from going on unanswered and repeated creating backwash. I'm starting to see some smalll image changes there that I like.
 
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I do not think you got enough clarification in that answer though, at least from what I read. Like say Summoned Skull attacks that Obnoxious Celtic Guard because of Staunch Defender and your opponent had 4 Scapegoat Tokens in Attack Position. What if as the 4th is declaring its attack you activate another Staunch Defender and target your face-up monster. Does everyone go back to attack again? I am sure the answer is obvious, but I do not have your question and its answer in front of me at the moment.
 
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<nodding> I see what you mean Tiso....

If I have Stone Statue Of The Aztecs out in face up def. position and when my opponent's third monster attacks I activate a second copy of Staunch Defender.....I assume it forces all face up monsters to attack the newly chosen monster....and forces monsters that have attacked to attack again? I know there are cards that can force monsters that have attacked to do so again....is this another of them?

I see they added the ruling about double copies activated in the same turn to the list of official rulings.
 
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See that comment brings my opinion of Dan down now. There is someone who has a favorite card and it could be one of those "garbage" cards like King Fog. Even if it was funny, he should have at least gave the player who was using it some credit.
 
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It was an innocent joke. Nothing more. He never calls the card "garbage". He simply has fun with the poster of the question. I think most people would have taken the comment as friendly jibe and not taken it personly.
 
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One, two, three, four ... I declare a deck war!

A nice shiny Ultimate Rare Unlimited Edition EEN-EN042 Feather Shot for the best King Fog deck made in the next 12 hours and posted to the Advanced Format forum.

(You know you want that card. Badly. Frankly I don't know how anyone can do without three of them in their deck.)

:duel_yes_ , er I mean ... :duel_no_j
 
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Tiso said:
See that comment brings my opinion of Dan down now. There is someone who has a favorite card and it could be one of those "garbage" cards like King Fog. Even if it was funny, he should have at least gave the player who was using it some credit.
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Come on now.... You're bobbing and weaving here!

It seems that only when you agree that a card is garbage is when it can be called "garbage".

Before that Ruling that Dan gave on the Judge List, I had only a very vague recollection of King Fog. I would even say that the cards in the actual question to the Judge List was more likely to be more of a hypothetical Deck that it was a real one.

All Dan is showing is a sense of Humor.
 
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Yeah, a sense of humor at the expense of a card. Just because he was able to make a joke about how garbage the card is, no matter how innocent it may be, can be viewed by someone else as an attack against their favorite card. Just downplaying King Fog I think is wrong, no matter if he was doing in it happy go lucky joke manner. Not to mention, it is that mentality of thinking as to why a card like King Fog is never played. So as it stands, my opinion of Dan dropped. But I appreciate they are picking up the old e-mail slack now.
 
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The old vanilla cards, a few I really like. The TCG and OCG version of Water Omatics. Then there is Succubus Knight who I will always treasure as my favorite Monster Card period, but I am not rewarded for liking her because the game makes her unplayable seriously. No matter how garbage it may be, someone may like said card.
 
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Tiso said:
The old vanilla cards, a few I really like. The TCG and OCG version of Water Omatics. Then there is Succubus Knight who I will always treasure as my favorite Monster Card period, but I am not rewarded for liking her because the game makes her unplayable seriously. No matter how garbage it may be, someone may like said card.
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And they will still like it. You also called a few cards Garbage just a week ago. I dont see how you can say Dan has lost some respect unless you are saying that you shouldnt be held to the same standard.

Im sure Dan's a great guy and all, but I dont see myself adding him to my Christmas Card mailing list just yet.

He's a man just like anyone of us, and I would rather him have a sense of humor that shows us that he is human, than to be uptight about every little thing.
 
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Because I am a player. Dan, while he may be a player, he also has a job connected to the YGO TCG that is in his job description. Very unprofessional even if the joke is in good sport. I mean how is that going to look to the players when even a UDE employee is calling a card from a game they are marketing as a garbage card? But I guess it is ok if they sugar coat it with a cute joke. A card may be garbage, but at least I understand that even a garbage card can have a fan attached to it. All I am saying is, my opinion of him in that sense has been lowered, but at least I appreciate him and Kevin for replying to old e-mail questions today and are actually fighting the tyranny of Konami anyway they can.
 
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Tiso said:
Yeah, a sense of humor at the expense of a card. Just because he was able to make a joke about how garbage the card is, no matter how innocent it may be, can be viewed by someone else as an attack against their favorite card. Just downplaying King Fog I think is wrong, no matter if he was doing in it happy go lucky joke manner. Not to mention, it is that mentality of thinking as to why a card like King Fog is never played. So as it stands, my opinion of Dan dropped. But I appreciate they are picking up the old e-mail slack now.
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He made a humorous comment about a situation that would be appreciated as such by anyone that didn't have an abnormal fixation on a card Kaiba: "Don't ever let me hear you speak ill of my Blues Eyes or I'll be forced to duel you in a shadow game!" or that isn't looking for an excuse to jump into an altercation for anything they can remotely construe as an insult no matter how slight. Young swashbucklers that strap on swords and go walking the streets with a keen ear to catch the slightest of comments from a stranger's lips will certainly find plenty of perceived wrongs to right. Most often it is better if two such find quarrel with one another as then the world may be at the least free of one or at best free of both. When they cry foul of others where no afront exists it becomes incumbent upon the cooler head to either take upon oneself the humility to bring the aggressor to peaceful end (a difficult task as any word offered will likely be twisted to further the altercation) or become party to the altercation and in so doing take up the mantle of the very thing you had not been in the first place.
 
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But the problem is, people do have their feelings when it comes to the cards they use. If a kid goes to a major tourney with King Fog x3 in his Deck? Should he has his card made fun of and his Deck? That is what I got from Dan. "Ho Ho Ho, well young lass I see you are using King Fog, ho ho ho are thy a villian?" Now I bet the the jokes would stop if said kid actually won said tournament with the King Fog. Like I said, every card has the possibility of being someone's favorite. I am not going stop an average player from bad mouthing a card all they want, but when a UDE employee and professional makes a "innocent" joke, and that should not even matter if he was not making it into a major insult, he still said it whatever context he meant it or said it in. Some people actually have that mentality like Kaiba and there is nothing wrong with that.
 
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Tiso said:
But the problem is, people do have their feelings when it comes to the cards they use. If a kid goes to a major tourney with King Fog x3 in his Deck? Should he has his card made fun of and his Deck? That is what I got from Dan. "Ho Ho Ho, well young lass I see you are using King Fog, ho ho ho are thy a villian?" Now I bet the the jokes would stop if said kid actually won said tournament with the King Fog. Like I said, every card has the possibility of being someone's favorite. I am not going stop an average player from bad mouthing a card all they want, but when a UDE employee and professional makes a "innocent" joke, and that should not even matter if he was not making it into a major insult, he still said it whatever context he meant it or said it in. Some people actually have that mentality like Kaiba and there is nothing wrong with that.
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I know all to well about players and their favorite cards. I have a friend who is obsessed with Silver Fang. So much so that he has to have one in almost every Deck he builds.

While I agree that someone from UDE or even Konami shouldnt be badmouthing the product, I dont read into that with Dan's comment and I actually see him saying, "if your opponent is playing weak cards, why worry about removing them?

As a contrast, would it be any different if he had said, "Hey, your opponent is playing with Black Luster Soldier? Dont worry about it!!"

If your deck is strong enough, it shouldnt be a problem. That's all I read into it. It's not even actually "funny" more than it is a statement of "fact", whether it it based upon experience, or, just tossing a hyperbole.
 
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