Green Baboon

[drzero7]

Can Green Baboon target itself?

Say Green Baboon is on the field, and there is no other type of Beast Monster. It's destroyed (I don't know, Smashing, Saku, Mirror, etc.) Can you pay 1000LP to special summon itself. (Since Baboon is a Beast)

 

[Martok]

Again, you missread. You read the first sentance or two and quit!
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The point I was referring to is can he get himself from the yard when HE is the beast destroyed!

And again, that was exactly what I had said in the first point, when i stated that the question is not which monster GB can get back, but *when* (i.e. under which circumstances, i.e. either when a BEAST-type monster is destroyed and sent to the graveyard or when a BEAST-type monster other than GB is destroyed and sent to the graveyard) its effect can be activated.

Now you've repeated my statement for the second time and you still seem to think that you're saying something different, when in fact it's still the same.

You did not answer this asked question.

That's right, because there's no official ruling to take as a basis for an answer yet.

As I said, this has no bearing.

It does have one, and I thought it would have to be clear to anyone who is familiar with this discussion. Seems like this was not the case and I have to explain it with more detail.

You argumentation is that GB's effect cannot activate when GB itself is destroyed because it cannot activate on the field.
And this argumentation can be disproved.

Let's assume a Nimble Momonga is destroyed by battle. It is still on the field when it is destroyed by battle. Its effect, however, cannot activate on the field. It can only activate in the graveyard. Still, its effect WILL activate. This means that an (optional) trigger effect of a monster can activate in the graveyard even if it was not in the graveyard while a necessary activation condition for its effect was being met.

Now let's add a GB to the scenario. As has been officially ruled, the effects of GB an Momonga will form a chain in this case. This means that the effects of GB and Momonga share the same activation timing, which is, in this case, when the Momonga has been sent to the graveyard.

Put these two facts together and you can see that the effect of GB can activate, if, say, GB and Momonga were both of the field and simultaneously destroyed by a card like Mirror Force of Torrential Tribute.

So unless an official TCG ruling says something else, there's no cogent reason why the effect of GB couldn't possibly activate if only GB was destroyed.

 

[CPMillerWV]

I would venture to guess he meant to type "1" and his finger slipped.

Yes, I was manualy typping from Ronin and hit 2 and not 1.

Sorry. :sorry