Horus 6 Versus Blast With Chain

woltarr

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scenario 1

horus 6 would gain 500 for a "blast with chain" equipped on him?


scenario 2

can horus 6 be destroyed by "blast with chain" effct?

thanks


woltarr
 
Horus LV6 is only unaffected by Spell Cards. Blast with Chain is not a Spell Card, it is a Equip Card, which is not a Equip Spell Card, so he would gain 500 and would also be destroyed by the effect of a Blast with Chain targeting him.
 
There are Equip Spell Cards, and Equip Trap Cards. The only thing that doesn't have a specific distinction are monsters that equip. They become Equip Spell Cards by default.

So any trap, like woo0 said, will still affect Horus L.6, or other similar effect monster.
 
masterwoo0 said:
Horus LV6 is only unaffected by Spell Cards. Blast with Chain is not a Spell Card, it is a Equip Card, which is not a Equip Spell Card, so he would gain 500 and would also be destroyed by the effect of a Blast with Chain targeting him.
But let's not lead people to belive that there is such a thing a "just an Equip Card". It either has to be Spell or Trap. In this case, it is an Equip Trap Card.
 
Digital Jedi said:
But let's not lead people to belive that there is such a thing a "just an Equip Card". It either has to be Spell or Trap. In this case, it is an Equip Trap Card.
Im just trying to stay consistent with what is being defined by the latest Rule Book Ver. 6.0...

Equip Card
Normally Equip Card means an Equip Spell Card. However, sometimes Trap Cards or Monster Cards are treated the same as an Equip Spell Card; the term "Equip Card" includes these.
 
Great...if that's the correct text, straight out of the rule book, then I'm already not happy with it...lol. It took us forever to get the term Equip Trap Card. And now they completely left it out of the rule book!
 
I think we should be cautious however, and not inadvertently verify inaccurate interpretations of the rule book. When it was first changed and certain cards errated, it was commonly misunderstood to mean that that some Equip Cards where treated as neither Spell nor Trap. I understand the need to stay consistent. But we should be the ones who make the rules clearer and not reinforce misinterpretation trying to do so.
 
skey23 said:
Great...if that's the correct text, straight out of the rule book, then I'm already not happy with it...lol. It took us forever to get the term Equip Trap Card. And now they completely left it out of the rule book!
Version 5.0 didnt have it either. I think it was only listed in Version 4.0, and then they probably just figured that "Equip Card" was good enough, and made a Physical Difference when comparing Equip Spell Cards to anything else that was not a Spell Card, that became a Equip Card.
 
My issue is the fact this rule book says Trap Cards are treated as Equip Spell Cards, which they aren't. They are Equip Trap Cards. You can't destroy them with an effect that specifically destroys Spell Cards ("De-Spell").
 
I could be wrong, but if I said that a cow is a "mammal", and a dog is treated as a mammal as well, does that mean that a dog is also a cow?

If I am saying that a Equip Trap Card is treated the same as a Equip Spell Card, am I not merely stating that the characteristics are similar as far as they "both" equip to a monster?

I dont think they are saying that Traps should be treated as Spell Cards if they have an effect that allows them to be equipped to a monster. I just think they are classifying Traps and Spell Cards that equip to monsters as Equip Cards, and that Trap Cards that equip are fundamentally the same as Equip Spell Cards.

I dont think this is a situation where you have a Proto-Cyber Dragon that is treated as "Cyber Dragon". I just think it is a poorly written explanation that really just meant to compare the two.
 
skey23 said:
My issue is the fact this rule book says Trap Cards are treated as Equip Spell Cards, which they aren't. They are Equip Trap Cards. You can't destroy them with an effect that specifically destroys Spell Cards ("De-Spell").

You're quoting out of context.

The rulebook doe NOT say "Trap Cards or Monster Cards are treated the same as an Equip Spell Card"

"The rulebook says: "Normally Equip Card means an Equip Spell Card. However, sometimes Trap Cards or Monster Cards are treated the same as an Equip Spell Card"

Which would mean that Trap cards and Monster cards are not Equip Spell Cards, which means they would have to be something else, which in turn changes the meaning of the next sentece. (Of course, it points out that the rulebook, has another mistake, since we know monster cards become equip spell cards...)

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What kind of animal:
-has 4 legs
-Wags its tail when happy
-Like to eat partially digested food (vomit, stomach contents of its prey)
-Barks, howls, and whimpers

If i were to answer Mammal would you say I would be correct?

No, i wouldn't have given the correct answer, even though that the correct answer would be a mammal.

Similarly, never call an "Equip Trap Card" an Equip card when you don't have to. Surely if i mixed some Equip Spell Cards in there you would have to call them Equip Cards, and if you talked about them collectively when they were in agreement you could use the singular "Equip Card" in some sentences.
 
We all know what the text meant. The problem is the way it's interpreted. It could have been stated much more clearly with but a simple phrase. "Equip Trap Card." It seems the rules to most trading card games feel the need to overcomplicate things by being too general.
 
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