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What would be the determining factor that says this deck is good and that deck is crap? How many people would honestly post their decks in the "Crappy Decks" section?
 
00Patience said:
That there should be some sort of filter from good decks and crap ones. Wastes less time.
Maybe like Original decks, and not Original decks. I would like this forum more, so would everyone else.
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I partly aggree with you...

Instead of Advanced Format Decks, it would be.

Competative Advanced Format Decks
Non-competative Advanced Format Decks.

Since no one seems to use the Casual Decks forum.

When I rate/fix decks in the Advanced Format Decks section, I try to make them good and effective.

I do not respect originality and jank when I am trying to make a deck good and effective.
 
Often times someone is limited on their knowledge, and what they think could be a GREAT DECK, is sometime average at best with potential.... .. I think that more people should utilize the casual section however, if it is just a creative deck not meant for tournament play... so I DO agree with that. If you want something to be edited and fixed for ADVANCED FORMAT... its going to be done just that way... and advanced it obviously the competitive play....... Maybe people think that ... IF they get help with their creative deck, that they can make it competitive and possibly take it to a tourney / SJC or something , and take people off guard.... I know that is MY aim when I try to come up with something new..... dang I need to shut up... I ramble too much when its late... hahaha
Laterz
 
I whole-heartedly agree with The Creator of this thread.

Let's elect him arbiter of normality! He gets to be the one who decides what's good and what's not!

No, really. I whole-heartedly agree with the idea. But it's complete ideology, nothing more. This is because there is no determining factor that cannot be argued. The plan you are putting forth would cause so many disputes that people would enjoy the forums LESS. It's like Prohibition: It caused so many problems when trying to enforce it, the law had to be removed.
 
The Casual Play section is intended for help with decks who's intent is not so much focused on tournament play but geared more toward a creative and casual play.

I do have trouble putting any deck into a "crappy" label. Most decks ideas I've seen have the potential to throw a monkey wrench into any given tournament for at least one or two players. Keep in mind that not everyone's focus is to create a consistant deck that wins by widely accepted means and is time tested.

I have to throw out the t-shirt phrase, "You laugh at me because I'm different....I laugh at you because you're the same"

I'm asking that people keep an open mind and a helpful spirit.
 
Another thing we should mention is the Casual PLay Deck section is intended for people that aren't really serious about there decks they are building. Decks with Japanese cards, Egyptian God Cards, formats that no longer exists or even a deck of entrely made up cards that you are playtesting is more the idea of Casual Play Decks. Not a deck that someone wouldn't consider competitve.

Quite frankly, it would be unfair to the users of this forum to stat labeling decks competitive and non-competitive. It would also be unfair to take someone's time and effort and effectively throw it back in their face based on your own personal opinion of it.

Do not forget modern day CC was once someone's original idea or jank. When someone posts an orginal deck idea, there is no way for us to know what kind of impact it can truly have. We have actually encouraged the posting of unique and original decks for as long as I can remember. If anything, this is what sets our forim apart from the rest of the Yu-Gi-Oh! world. Adventurous people that are willing to take achance and think outside the box.

You are effectively asking for a Cookie Cutter filter of sorts, where non CC is seperated from CC. But that is actually counter productive to the principles our forums was based upon, which is fostering the community and open Exchange of information.

Telling people their decks are "crap", or even non-competitive would not be condusive to pomoting those principles. All deck ideas are welcome here and in one section. It would be entirely to arbitray a decision to spilt them up in this fashion.
 
I don't think that a "crappy" section is exactly what the thread starter was hinting at <correct me if im wrong>, I see it more like a help forum for people who either are not too familiar with deck building abilities or are just getting into the game, sorta like a help for begginner deck forum.

Going along the Advanced theme of course, advanced is intended for advanced players right?
 
slither said:
Going along the Advanced theme of course, advanced is intended for advanced players right?
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Actually, no. "Advance" is simply the name attached to the format where the ban list is enforeced. It has nothing to do with level of play. It's an inapropriate title in my opinion, because it leads to some false assumptons by younger players who think there is a Beginner and Intermediate Format.
 
wouldnt that suggest that a re-naming of the current forum for "Advanced" Format deck would be Appropriate?

The deck forum divisions are actually very helpful. But it kind of depends on how it is used.
-Deck Checks for the formation of ideas, the gathering of possible cards and combinations.

-Casual decks for new, untried/untested decks, those who want a fun idea that may not be totally in line with the Competitive Class decks you normally will encounter.

-The Advanced Format decks can include those Casual deck ideas that have been tested and revised and retested, until they show some winning potential. Then the advice given can incorporate each unique theme, while considering the standard competition that will be faced. So long as a deck from the Casual forum has been worked on thoroughly by the builder, and is really ready to attempt putting itself up against more formal decks, you can confidently give advice based on the intensity (if not level) of competition, while defending original concepts.

On top of all that, you still have the Deck Garage and Traditional forums that give further options.


Or, you can label 5 apples with each forum's name. Throw them in the air, and the one with the least bruises is where you post your deck.
 
John Danker, and Digital Jedi:
I think you both hit the nail right on the head. You both said what I meant to, but lacked the words...... ( well at least at 1:45 in the AM ) ....
 
Hrm... Crappy and Good.. Seems harsh. ts a good way to put a new player of. What really makes people think they have a good deck anyway? True tournement play hands on, but making two areas for advance decks seems od. If you did that. really who's would or tell someoe to put their deck in the crapy section, anyone who can answer that needs sort themself out.
 
Complex_Mind said:
I partly aggree with you...

Instead of Advanced Format Decks, it would be.

Competative Advanced Format Decks
Non-competative Advanced Format Decks.

Since no one seems to use the Casual Decks forum.

When I rate/fix decks in the Advanced Format Decks section, I try to make them good and effective.

I do not respect originality and jank when I am trying to make a deck good and effective.
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dude no offence here, but when you fix decks if you gonna do that why not just recomend cc Cyber Dragon, or cc warrior beatdown or something

also i gotta say amen john and dj you guys pretty much covered ever base right there.
 
Digital Jedi said:
Actually, no. "Advance" is simply the name attached to the format where the ban list is enforeced. It has nothing to do with level of play. It's an inapropriate title in my opinion, because it leads to some false assumptons by younger players who think there is a Beginner and Intermediate Format.
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Ah my bad, I was in that mind challenge by myself, I did think that it was intended for "formats" but after seeing the other names I though it was a sorta for Advanced players or something.

I do agree that it can cause much of a missunderstanding, it might be a good idea to make a re-name of it.
 
slither said:
Ah my bad, I was in that mind challenge by myself, I did think that it was intended for "formats" but after seeing the other names I though it was a sorta for Advanced players or something.

I do agree that it can cause much of a missunderstanding, it might be a good idea to make a re-name of it.
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I agree, I would have chosen a different name. But this is what Konami has chosen for the format. I think their line of thinking is that Advance is much more challenging then Traditional, so the entire format is more "advance" then Traditional. I think I would have gone with something simpler myself, like "Restricted Format".
 
I believe that if this change did occur it would spark up a new interest in this forum. We could have discussions on where the decks should be placed in this forum and not just the forum. We would get to see where are decks stand in competitive play. I think this would also increase the skill. If we could only filter out all the "Casual advice" Like when I ask for help with my deck for example it's a cookie cut deck, Cyber Dragons, D.D. Assailants, stuff like that Im obviously looking to be competitive, we all know the many cards it takes to be competitive. Im not saying it has to be cookie cut, but better than what I'm seeing. The advice we are looking for is not here. Alot of us want it here, and that is why this thread is up.
 
So what you're saying is, people who are different from you should be filtered so you don't have to waste your time looking at their idiotic posts.
 
Jason_C said:
I whole-heartedly agree with The Creator of this thread.

Let's elect him arbiter of normality! He gets to be the one who decides what's good and what's not!

No, really. I whole-heartedly agree with the idea. But it's complete ideology, nothing more. This is because there is no determining factor that cannot be argued. The plan you are putting forth would cause so many disputes that people would enjoy the forums LESS. It's like Prohibition: It caused so many problems when trying to enforce it, the law had to be removed.
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I would really like to take this job.
Well yeah, alot of people are looking for good advice and not getting it because of the fact that so many look for originality, when alot of the time (most of the time) we are not looking for it. If it was filtered, we could easily get good advice, and waste less time. Im basing this off the time that I have been going to City of Gamers.
 
00Patience said:
I would really like to take this job.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was friggin' JOKING!!! It's called SARCASM!!!!!

You are not the arbiter of normality. No one is. People are different, no one is "normal". Get used to it, because whether you like it or not, you've no say in what other people do. No one does.
 
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