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Jason_C said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was friggin' JOKING!!! It's called SARCASM!!!!!

You are not the arbiter of normality. No one is. People are different, no one is "normal". Get used to it, because whether you like it or not, you've no say in what other people do. No one does.
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Obviously, I think we should have a say. With that in mind people would have a better chance at getting more out of this site. I came in here to learn things about the game and get better to win. Most people do the same.
 
I came in here to learn things about the game and get better to win.
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No, you didn't. You came here so you could blatantly tell me "Thats one stupid idea" with no explanation of Reasoning or purpose. And I reported it to the Council. So far, nothing. But patience is key when dealing with them.

<EDIT: And, of course, DJ butts in>
 
Every man has a breaking point. I myself broke yesterday why you ask? I'm sick of advice that won't improve the deck, rather than just annoying advice thats not really relevant.
 
I'm sick of advice that won't improve the deck
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I'm going to point out that my advice WOULD improve the deck, and you can't prove it wouldn't have. Now I'm going to shut up. Before I get in trouble. Which I will any way. But I'm going to shut up before I get DEEPER into trouble. Hint hint nudge nudge.
 
00Patience said:
Obviously, I think we should have a say. With that in mind people would have a better chance at getting more out of this site. I came in here to learn things about the game and get better to win. Most people do the same.
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I've spoken to a few members in PMs and in person who have expressed to me that this is one of the few places where they have actually learned something. The fact of the matter is that there the onyl type of advice there is, is casual advice. Nothing anyone suggets is going to be official or a fact. Thats kind of the purpose of making a game "customizable". There are going to be variations on everything.

When looking for advice, one cannot "filter" out the advice one doesn't want to hear and learn anything from it. One can never learn if all he want's is his ears tickled. You don't like the advice given, it's you option not to take it. But it's unlikely that you will ever learn anything, which is your ultimate goal.

But there is no such thing as an "Advice Filter" other then one we already have in place inside our own mind.
 
Someone who knows whats good and whats not should be respected and sometimes questioned. In that situation I fealt that I shouldn't of been questioned because I thaught your advice trully was not helpful. The only way to prove that would be taking a vote. We could just compare that to someone elses advice. Thats the only way I can prove it to you. Well the only way I have in mind.
I do partly agree with you guys, but could we atleast get some good advice from a vet, such as Jason. I mean come on now. This site in it's current state could not prepare a duelist for a heavy competition such as a regional or a SJC.
 
Someone who has the skill enough to know if something works or not should be respected not questioned.
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You're right, I should.

Alright, it was 1st grade-ish. But I read your message, and something a 5-year-old once said to me when I said a similar thing to him just sorta.. came. You gotta admit, that WAS pretty funny, even if dumb.

If we had a vote on whether your advice was good, you would lose.
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Go ahead, start the poll. You can choose the "Yes, post a poll!" section and add it to this thread. We'll see. If you're right, I'll stop giving advice and concede your intellectual superiority. If I'M right, you'll stop insulting me, and actually listen to what I say. Have we a deal?
 
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Good advice and bad advice can only be proven through trial and error. It doen't even have to be you who has actually done the testing. All you really need is someone who can say "Yeah, I tried that many times and it didn't work". If you don't have any way of doing this then you really can't say whether advice is good or bad. It's an arbitrary decision. One we aouldn't even put into place without ignoreing one of our forums fundamental mantra.
 
Something's wrong with this thread, and I don't mean the argument. There's a post I can't see. It shows up under new posts, but when I go to read it, it's not there. Has it been deleted, and I've just transcended that rule to some extent? :p Or what?

<EDIT: It's a deal>
 
OKay fellas from reading 00Patiences replies and Complex_Mind I've notice 1 thing.

Both actaully would reply back with the same CC responce.

You both have opinions on what you guys think is a good or bad deck but WE the majority factor arnt YOU.

Understand that most of us think outside of the box. You may suggest any CC you want, its fine. But like I stated in a Complex_Mind Thread that I got Immidiatly shut down from, "What is the point?"

You post a CC deck to get a CC responce and when you get something different you shut it down. If you know CC and Eat CC why do you need somebody else to tell you what to play in CC?

are you so uncertain of your deck building skillz that you need your fellow peer to tell you what is in a CC build?

realize the following, NO DECK IS CRAPPY!.

Final, no its and or but's about it, all decks have potential and Beuty is in the eye of the beholder.

so, no im sorry no filter will ever exists that will say what is what. IF you dont even know what is what your self.

come april, the last CC you played will be the last time you will probably suggest it.

just like last lists didnt play Mobius Control this next might not either.

so please I respect both of your opinions but unless you start respecting everybodies elses all you are trying to do is seem like an Elitist... and really that cant be good man.
 
Well then, how about we have the Sacred Crane deck Idea guy, test what Jason says, see how it puts up against a competitive dekc. Even one thats not as competitive. How's that sound?
 
okey dokey, i'm not a mod (and sorry if this sounds moddy, it might just be age talking here lol) and i'm gonna appolgise for my pervious statement, but complex mind annoyed me. mostly due to his comment about not having respect for the orginalitly of a deck when revieiwing it. since that seems to translate as not having respect for the person who built it.

okay patience, personally if you want cc advice then personally if i ever did i'd either hit up metagame and netdeck a deck from there rather than asking from improve or go that place with a p and a j in its name and imo if you dont like the advice given here, then you should either go find somewhere else to put the deck up or say so. (any chance you could link me your thread so i could takealooksee?)

any if you did come here to learn about the game in general then you can do that very much so here and with ronin, personally if you indeed to only play cc(as you seem to be wanting too.) then you dont need to learn much imo either since there are a lot of rulings you only need to know if yoru playing different decks.

now imo there is no invincable deck, my e-hero deck has been Cyber Dragon cc before, and will again, its all down the build,(now whats the betting you'd call my deck jank huh?) well just try to be open minded, if you dont then well, netdeck basicly, just i dunno look up a deck by evan vargas or something.

and like jason says no one can decide what the masses should abide by the rule of one, that my friend is dictatorship,

edit: i totally agree with dj and krazy kid here too
 
00Patience said:
Well then, how about we have the Sacred Crane deck Idea guy, test what Jason says, see how it puts up against a competitive dekc. Even one thats not as competitive. How's that sound?
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That's up to him to decide. However that is no kind of test as to who's advice was beter and who's wasn't. The only thing it would prove is that this idea did or didn't work for him and him alone under these conditions. We're not going to get into "quien es mas macho" tournaments again, which is where this is leading. I have no desire to lock this thread. So <speaking to everyone> lets keep the conversation civil. Stick to the subject at hand. 00Patince, you have a majority against you here, but that does not mean we are ignoring your suggestion. For the most part, it just doesn't seem like a direction we want this forum to go.
 
shadowdragon said:
dude no offence here, but when you fix decks if you gonna do that why not just recomend cc Cyber Dragon, or cc warrior beatdown or something

also i gotta say amen john and dj you guys pretty much covered ever base right there.
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You mean no offense. And offense IS taken.

I know that the word "wrong" is not encouraged on this forum, but I must point out 2 things about your post.

1. You're wrong.
2. You're lying.

I'm coming to the conclusion that you have never seen me edit a deck. I am fairly confident that I have NEVER included Cyber Dragon in an edit, maybe recommended, but I explained that they are hard to get and gave possibilities of what to run instead.

I have never "transformed" a themed deck into a different one (i.e. into warrior toolbox, or whatever you stated).

I do my best to make decks better than they already are, because I know from experience, what is good and what is not. If that happens to be a Sakuretsu Armor or two, so be it, my intentions are for the good of that person(s) deck.

I am offended because I spend A LOT of time on decks that I think I can help. All the way up to a half an hour to an hour editing explaining why in my posts. I would like to see your response to this and I -DO- expect somewhat of an apology because I am indeed OFFENDED by the UNEDUCATED nature of your post.

Thank you.
 
00Patience said:
Someone who knows whats good and whats not should be respected and sometimes questioned. In that situation I fealt that I shouldn't of been questioned because I thaught your advice trully was not helpful. The only way to prove that would be taking a vote. We could just compare that to someone elses advice. Thats the only way I can prove it to you. Well the only way I have in mind.
I do partly agree with you guys, but could we atleast get some good advice from a vet, such as Jason. I mean come on now. This site in it's current state could not prepare a duelist for a heavy competition such as a regional or a SJC.
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oh please be kidding me, i can ga-ran-damn-tee you people here could propare someone from an sjc, i mean take for example john danker, the guy has probably judged more events than i've had hot dinners, we have a huge ammount of talent and deck building skill here, and man, seriusly look around. heck we probably have some sjc top eighters and winners here, but if you want that man seriously go to somewhere you feel you could rather than Whining about to us.
 
That's up to him to decide
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"Him" prefers the original bet.

We all know Neil would be biased towards me. Don't kid yourself, he'd take my side hands down. I allowed him to more than double his point total, and he and I are buds. When taking a poll, if a fair result is desired, polling a LARGE group is best. And I'm sure 00patience wants a fair result.
 
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