JUMP-EN014: Green Baboon, Defender of the Forest

Wow, this card is like one of the best card ever since E-Hero Stratos was released for JUMP. (There was that Exchange of the Spirits, but got banned like before we even get to play it)

Anyway, we're now getting the best "Beast"stick ever printed alolng with the one card that put Rat Control "Beastdoiwn" into Tier 1 in Japan until it got 1x per deck restriction.

Enough blah, review time.

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Green Baboon, Defender of the Forest
Star 7 / Beast /Earth/ Effect
ATK/ 2600
DEF/ 1800
When a Beast-Type Monster you control is destroyed and send to the Graveyard, you can pay 1000 Lifepoints to special summon this card from your hand or the Graveyard.


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Let's start things off. For one thing, it's a LV7. BUT, for a LV7, it doesn't matter, since it's effect lets you special summon from hand. And for that, even though it's a 2600ATK only, (Weak for a "regular" 2 tribute monster) this weakness can be totally ignored since you'll NEVER tribute summon this card anyway. You can just pay 1000LP to special summon from hand. So the LV, only thing that matters is that you can use Metamorphosis to get something like King Dragun/Cyber Ogre2/Last Warrior from Another Plane/etc. 2600ATK beatstick is scary, why? Cause there's no other monster in CC meta that's stronger then this card right now. Card Trooper max at 1900, Cyber Dragon is 2100, even Jinzo/Monarch is 2400. Not even a pumped Bazoo can kill it since it tops at 2500ATK. Your FORCED to use s/t removal or Shrink (Maybe Rush Recklessly if you got Cyber Dragon or higher ready) just so that the player just pays another 1000LP to get him back out... yeah... PURE annoying beatstick.

Now, the good thing about this card, that you can special summon it from both HAND AND GRAVEYARD. The requirement is a Beast monster destruction, but this is EASY. Gee, good Beast monster, how about Giant Rat. And you don't like paying 1000LP? run 3x Nimble Momonga. (that's a beast too BTW, so fits perfectly) That's already 6x beast potential. And also, this card ITSELF is a beast. That means stuff like Saku/Smashing/Ring/Mirror/Torrential/etc. are ALL meaningless. Say your Giant Rat dies, and then you special summon Green Baboon by paying 1000LP, then Baboon attacks and hit a Saku, then you pay another 1000LP to bring itself back up since itself is a BEAST. (And it's effect kicks in after it hits the graveyard so you can target itself) And one more thing, the requirement is just "destruction" and then "sent to the graveyard". This means if you get hit by Deck Devastation Virus (which usually is a bad thing against a deck full or Rats and Squirrels) even if all of your Rats and whatever else weakass Beast monsters dies, you can pay whatever LP to summon whatever number of Baboons you have in your hand or graveyard to special summon it... Yeah, even DDV is somewhat bad against this as your foe can make a huge comeback.

When you have more then 1, like 2 or preferably 3x in hand or graveyard, then whenever 1 Beast Monster is destroyed and sent to graveyard, you can pay 3000LP to summon 3x 2600ATK beatstick. That's 7800LP damag if they all direct attack. And like I said, if it hits Torrential or Mirror, you can pay LP again to bring them all back again. (Although 6000LP payment is alot...) Seriously, the ONLY option to kill this card is RFP. i.e. BTH (This card will be your main thing to stop it) DDWL, DDA, Banisher of the Radiance, etc.

So now you get this card is good. The only problem is to search it... which is almost impossible. We don't have Foolish Burial or Golden Sealed Coffer to get him out quickly. So our only choice is just Card Trooper. Although it's a machine, the fact that it's Earth, fits the Giant Rat bill and you definately won't mind Green Baboon hitting the graveyard.

So, if this card isn't 1x per deck, and your allowed to run in 3x, expect this line-up for a tier 1 Rat Control

3x Green Baboon
3x Giant Rat
3x Nimble Momonga
2~3x Card Trooper
2~3x Exiled Force
1~2x Injection Fairy Lily
1x N-Space Grand Mole
0~2x Creature Swap
Whatever else you want.

The overall comment. It's a 2600ATK beatstick that you can special summon from hand, and after that, it NEVER DIES! The LP cost can be big, but hey, if people play Premature Burial to just special summon a dead Cyber Dragon or Monarch, I don't think paying 1000LP for a 2600ATK beatstick is a bad idea. And like I said, there's always Nimbles to back you up. (Hitting a face-down Nimble, to just get 2x Nimbles from deck plus whatever else Baboons in your hand/grave all special summoned at the same time... is just WRONG!)

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Overall I give this card a

11 out of 10

What that means? 1x per deck just like Japan OCG. Or else Rat Control will be too annoying and every one of us have to put 3x BTH in our sidedecks along with Banisher of the Radiance to stop it. Making it 1x per deck will make it like Stratos, good but not broken level.
 
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Come on. I like the card a lot, but "11 out of 10"? Fine, Norleras with the 10.5 out of 10 I could see a little bit because the effect was good, but that was being silly as well. And now you're saying the Baboon is better than that? Really, why bother putting a ranking when you're going to give numbers that don't fit the scale and further you're saying "this card is so good, it should be put into everyone's deck" which we know isn't the case. The review is fine and all but the ratings really need to be adjusted a bit more accurately or at least clarified. Like Baboon: 9 out of 10 in it's own deck, 5 out of 10 elsewhere (cause outside of a Beast deck, it really isn't that great).
 
There's a major problem with your post drzero7.....

Since Green Baboon has the formula "When..... you can....." you will almost definitely have a timing issue with cards like Nimble Momonga, Giant Rat, et al. due to the fact that the last thing to occur with those types of cards is not the sending o the Graveyard, but something else, therefore it misses the timing.

Sorry guys.

<That ought to knock it down to a more reasonable # : 10.>
 
Really, if it misses the timing THAT MUCH, then yeah, the rating will drop I'll say. I guess a judge ruling will solve that prob. But really, if stuff like Giant Rat or Nimble Momonga misses the timing of Green Baboon, then I would have to drop it's rating down to like 9~10 out of 10.

And oh yeah, not just "it's soo good it belongs to everybody's deck" gets a 11 out of 10, if I feel the card is broken if it's 2 or 3x, I usually end up giving it a 11 out of 10. 11 out of 10 means it's broken so put it on restricted or limited list. (Either that, or staple cards)

This card is no way staple, but I believe that 3x is just stupid so yeah.
 
drzero7 said:
This card is no way staple, but I believe that 3x is just stupid so yeah.
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Oh, thank goodness you didn't say "sick"! I only see that term on this forum, and it bugs the smeg out of me.

As for missing the timing, I don't think Nimble Momonga would cause Green Baboon to miss its timing. Both effects would trigger at the same time, and go on a chain. Since Nimble Momonga is mandatory (the increasing Life Points), Green Baboon would be Chain Link 2, and would be Special Summoned before the Life Points gain (and the Special Summon of the other Nimble Momongas). Your opponent, however, would NOT be able to Bottomless Trap Hole your Green Baboon (he could still Torrential Tribute your Momongas, though, which could trigger another Green Baboon).
 
Actually it doesn't miss the timing with Giant Rat and Nimble Momonga since their effects activate when they are destroyed by battle and sent to the Graveyard... the exact same moment when Green Baboon would activate so they'd go on a chain.

Missing the timing would be: I summon my 3rd 3-Hump Lacooda and retain priority to send 2 to the Graveyard (so I can draw my 3 cards) and then my opponent chains Torrential Tribute. 3-Hump Lacooda would be destroyed (since at least 1 is still on the field) but the last thing to happen is me drawing cards.
 
Can this effect happen when the baboon itself is destroyed? Or must it be in the graveyard when the monster is attacked?
 
Maruno said:
Oh, thank goodness you didn't say "sick"! I only see that term on this forum, and it bugs the smeg out of me.

As for missing the timing, I don't think Nimble Momonga would cause Green Baboon to miss its timing. Both effects would trigger at the same time, and go on a chain. Since Nimble Momonga is mandatory (the increasing Life Points), Green Baboon would be Chain Link 2, and would be Special Summoned before the Life Points gain (and the Special Summon of the other Nimble Momongas). Your opponent, however, would NOT be able to Bottomless Trap Hole your Green Baboon (he could still Torrential Tribute your Momongas, though, which could trigger another Green Baboon).
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Interesting, I've never seen a group of momangas Special Summoned by their effects, "Torrential Tribute"'d before =P!
 
Oceanus said:
Interesting, I've never seen a group of momangas Special Summoned by their effects, "Torrential Tribute"'d before =P!
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Oh, I dunno. It was hypothetical. I know (or at least, I've remembered) that Torrential Tribute can't be activated then.

I think Green Baboon cannot activate in response to its own destruction. It needs to be in the Graveyard or hand when the destruction happens, so it can then trigger after it. Two Green Baboons will trigger each other, though.
 
That's the thing. Green Baboon would be in the Graveyard by the time the effect would activate (since it's been destroyed and sent to the Graveyard). And considering the ruling they made for Grandmaster of the Six Samurai... I wouldn't be shocked if they said it could.
 
Oh good. So it DOESN'T miss the timing when Giant Rat or Nimbles gets destroyed as a result of battle.

Umm, you cannot Torrential Tribute when 2x Nimbles gets special summoned face-down by the effect of the first Nimbles since they're being summoned during damage step.

It should be allowed that Green Baboon can target itself if you think about it. It's effect kicks in after a Beast Monster is destroyed and then sent to the graveyard, and itself is a beast.

This is the reason why it's 11 out of 10 ranking IMO right now. It just doesn't die.
 
crystal beast topaz tiger, crystal beast amber mamoth & crystal beast sapphire pegasus....oh this is gonna be fun... :D
hamon AND green baboon!
all the demise haters are whining now - wait till these get rolling...
jathro - i'm expecting a deck posting by end of the week... :p
 
Well,they finally got support for beasts because now the really need it.I would love to have this.If you have a beast deck add this to it.But you gave it a 11/10.I would rate it 8/10.
 
HorusMaster said:
Let's not forget about the effect of Rescue Cat. Could help a lot with this deck as well for summoning Green Baboon.
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I have a Crystal Beast "Beast" deck that I feel this monster would work very well with, simply because the only powerhouse in the deck is Hamon. It wouldn't hurt too much to put a stronger monster like this in there, expecially since I too use Rescue Cat with it.
Rescue Cat with Green Baboon seems like a nice combo, but the sad thing is that it'll be tough to get G.Baboon to your hand or g/y quickly enough for Rescue Cat. But hey, it still works right?

Neat Card.
 
I agree with the Foolish Burial + Baboon combo. It's alot more effective then trying pot-luck with Card Trooper.
 
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