Just Making Sure...

Ooooh, now that's a tricky one. I went ahead and pulled a few rulings out of RONIN to examine (gotta love RONIN, it truly rocks...) here are a few I thought pertinent:

"¢ When you have a monster equipped with "Metalsilver Armor", your opponent CAN activate "Reinforcement of the Army".

"¢ When you have a monster equipped with "Metalsilver Armor", your opponent CAN activate the effect of "The Thing in the Crater" because it Special Summons a monster from your HAND.

"¢ Your opponent cannot activate "Monster Reborn" and other cards that target while you have a monster equipped with "Metalsilver Armor". Your opponent can activate "Raigeki", "Mirror Force", and other cards that do not target.

"¢ If you have "Metalsilver Armor" active, your opponent cannot target his/her monsters either (with Equip Spell Cards, etc.), including with "Premature Burial".

Now a couple things to note:

Premature Burial, Monster Reborn are spell cards that are activated on the field and are targeting a monster in the graveyard.

The Thing in the Crater is an effect that activates in the graveyard and targets a card in the hand.

Reinforcement of the Army is a spell card that activates on the field, but targets a warrior in the deck. This may be a "loose" targeting since it is only looking for warriors in the deck. Similarly The Thing in the Crater seems to be a "loose" targeting since it is looking for pyro monsters in the hand.

Taking these things into consideration, I would think that Night Assailant's effect is A) activating in the graveyard and B) doing a "loose" target for flip effect monsters in the graveyard, so it would be able to resolve since it is out of the scope of Metalsilver's control.

As for Vampire Lord, its effect is activating in the graveyard to revive itself, so it isn't "targeting 1 monster" in the formal sense and can revive itself.

That's my 10 bits on the issue. Any other thoughts?
 
StRiKe_NiNjA said:
Remember this chaosruler, cards can never target themselves. :)
Question then: Are the effects of Man-Eater Bug and the first effect of Black Luster Soldier EotB not-targetting then? In both these cases these cards can use their own effects against themselves. I would have thought that because you select one monster as the victim of the effect that they are targetting.
 
FelixChCh said:
Question then: Are the effects of Man-Eater Bug and the first effect of Black Luster Soldier EotB not-targetting then? In both these cases these cards can use their own effects against themselves. I would have thought that because you select one monster as the victim of the effect that they are targetting.

Actually, your right, in some cases, cards can target themselves. LoL, and yes, BLS-EoTb.

Good find FelixChCh
 
1.) Reinforcement of the Army and The Thing in the Crater do not target, you choose the cards during resolution of the effect. Infact The Thing's FAQ specifically states that it does not target, it works like Marauding Captain, and you choose the monster at resolution.

2.) A targeted effect requires the target of the effect to be pre-chosen during activation by the caster. V-Lord/Phoenix do not "self-target" they are classified as non-targeted. The object affected is determined by the effect itself during resolution.

3.) Generic targeted effects such as BLS or Man-Eater do not self-target, as you (the caster) are still choosing the target, even if it the same monster that generated the effect.
 
Okay, its starting to sink in now. I'm re-reading the cards and seeing where the activation and resolution points are. Too bad they dont' have those arrow in VS, right? 8^D
 
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