King Dragun's Targeting Prevention

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Hi there people! :)

I would very much appreciate if a judge (or someone who knows the rules very well) can answer me this.

I had a masked dragon on my side of the field, and my opponent had a King Dragun on his. When he destroyed my masked dragon, he told me I could not use its effect, due to his King Dragun's effect.

Now, I had 2 doubts about this. First of all, I don't know whether King Dragun's effect prevents targeting of dragons other than those that are on the field (which would be important since in this case, I was obviously special summoning a monster form the deck). And secondly, I don't know whether Masked dragon's effect actually targets, since it doesn't even say "Select".

And one other thing, while on topic: do Sakuretsu Armor and Magic Cylinder target the monster involved?

Thanks a lot! :)
 
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"King Dragun" works exactly like "Lord of D.", except that "King Dragun" only prevents your opponent from targeting and "Lord of D." prevents both players. You can see their rulings on http://netrep.net/ .

You are correct that "Masked Dragon"'s effect will resolve properly, for three reasons:
  • "Masked Dragon" is your own effect. "King Dragun" only prevents your opponent's effects from targeting.
  • "King Dragun" only affects Dragons that are on the field.
  • The effect of "Masked Dragon" does not target. This is because "target" means that you choose the card(s) to be affected when the effect activates. For "Masked Dragon", you choose which Dragon to Special Summon when you resolve the effect, so it does not target. Actually, it is impossible to target a card in the Deck, because the Deck is not public knowledge.
Moreover, both "Sakuretsu Armor" and "Magic Cylinder" target. This is specifically mentioned in their rulings, which you can view on http://netrep.net/ .
 
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Thanks Entropy!

Hey Entropy!

Thanks a lot mate! I don't think the first reason really applies, because the King Dragun was on my opponent's side of the field, not mine. However, the second and third reason you gave me were just as I thought, and I very much appreciated you confirming them for me.

Just another thing if you don't mind: I believed quite strongly that I was right in this case. However, I basically gave in because the other kept insisting that Masked Dragon's effect targets, and that it would be prevented by King Dragun, and I didn't want to just ruin the duel by continuing to insist on something I didn't know how to prove, even though I ended up losing the duel because of that. :( So, just in case this happens again, do you have any idea of where I could find a written ruling to prove that the effects of recruiter monsters like Masked Dragon don't target? And also that King Dragun's effect prevents targeting only of dragons on the field, and not in the deck too?

I know all this, but I hope you understand that when people get obstinate, I would need to prove it. :(

Thanks again for all the help you gave me already! :)
 
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Duh, I thought you said that you control both "Masked Dragon" and "King Dragun". I need to learn to read....

Consider the following rulings:
If the opponent has "Lord of D." on the field and activates "The Flute of Summoning Dragon" to Special Summon 2 copies of "Blue-Eyes White Dragon", you can activate this card and both will be removed from play. "Lord of D." does not protect the Dragons because "Bottomless Trap Hole" does not target. The same situation would occur if only 1 "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" was Special Summoned, "Bottomless Trap Hole" still does not target.
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You can activate "The Flute of Summoning Dragon" if your opponent controls a face-up "Lord of D." and you do not.
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"The Flute of Summoning Dragon" does more-or-less the same thing as "Masked Dragon": it Special Summons a Dragon-Type monster(s) from a place that is private knowledge. However, the effect of "Lord of D." does not interfere with the effect of "The Flute of Summoning Dragon", so "The Flute of Summoning Dragon" does not target. "Masked Dragon" is pretty much the same, so "Masked Dragon" does not target.
 
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