last will and errata

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I am pretty sure I saw a discussion somewhere talking about this :

Last Will
(Tournament Pack 7, Starter Decks: Yugi, Yugi Evolution)
If a monster on your side of the field was sent to your Graveyard this turn, you can Special Summon 1 monster with an ATK of 1500 points or less from your Deck once during this turn. Then shuffle your Deck.

Has there been a change where you can play Last Will after the fact. I had always thought Last Will had to be activated before a monster was sent from the field. I am hearing other judges that worked Shonen Jumo Baltimore say it was allowed to be played after the fact there.

Example:

Player A summons a monster and attacks. Player B plays Sak Armor. Player A activates Last Will and then summons a Reaper in defense.

This seems so broken. Can someone shed some light on this for me.

Thanks
 
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Well there has been discussion, but the way it has been viewed in the OCG, WC2006, and now with the text reflecting the OCG in the TCG it is more than obvious that you can activate it any time whether the monster went to the Graveyard before or after.
 
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The last word we got before we started the Shonen Jump - Baltimore Apr 8th-9th was,

"When we play in Japan, we'll use their ruling. Until then, play it as it is currently ruled in the US".
 
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As I said in the thread I began on the subject, when the FAQ changes or it appears on the judge list (I posted a question regarding it to the judges list a couple of weeks ago with no reply thus far) I'll rule it as the FAQ states. The FAQ at this point still points to it needing to be activated before the monster is sent to the graveyard.
 
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The problem is, as logical as that is to uphold what the FAQ says we all know it is not updated. I just find it laziness on UDE part to not update it on a frequent matter. All this does is lead to more problems and angry players when they do finally synch up.
 
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Tiso said:
The problem is, as logical as that is to uphold what the FAQ says we all know it is not updated. I just find it laziness on UDE part to not update it on a frequent matter. All this does is lead to more problems and angry players when they do finally synch up.
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No argument from me <we agree!> ....that's assuming there is an update to be done....which it would seem...but I don't know that for certain.
 
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Tiso said:
The problem is, as logical as that is to uphold what the FAQ says we all know it is not updated. I just find it laziness on UDE part to not update it on a frequent matter. All this does is lead to more problems and angry players when they do finally synch up.
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I agree with you and John. But we go by word of mouth on a ruling, Who knows if it is a right one. The FAQ really is what we have to work with. I also put a question in for Last Will today. Maybe they will answer it.....
 
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The problem is, the TCG and by TCG I mean Kevin has this anti-OCG stance. Why would Last Will by restricted to 1 now? Why would Blockman evade restriction? I just wish UDE stop taking a reactive stance and take a proactive stance. I do not want to get used to how a card works right now only for it to be finally "corrected" and everyone cries foul.
 
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masterwoo0 said:
The last word we got before we started the Shonen Jump - Baltimore Apr 8th-9th was,

"When we play in Japan, we'll use their ruling. Until then, play it as it is currently ruled in the US".
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The last word from Kevin and Dan at SJC Long Beach was that you can activate it before or after the monster is sent to the GY.
 
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Hehe, well mortals was there I believe.

Even though Kevin and Dan said you can activate it before or after, I'll still follow the current ruling on the card. It's just proper procedure until the rulings get updated. We all know they're way past due in getting updated.
 
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Then as it stands until it is updated, you can only activate Last Will before the monster is sent from your field to the Graveyard.

That's the ruling and that's what we must follow. They better make updates to the FAQ to a grand scale and not just to one or two cards. That's what will anger me more if they don't. If they don't, the amount of work for the update will just keep piling up. After all it isn't my job to keep the FAQ updated.

Although I wish it was, because I'd actually listen to you guys.
 
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mortals said:
The last word from Kevin and Dan at SJC Long Beach was that you can activate it before or after the monster is sent to the GY.
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That strikes me as odd that he would agree to go with "either/or", but not post such game breaking news on the Judge's List.

All that does is confuse players and cause we Judge's more problems as players pass the info from Tournament to Tournament. There's nothing like trying to "unbrainwash" players who lock onto something that sounds good!!
 
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masterwoo0 said:
That strikes me as odd that he would agree to go with "either/or", but not post such game breaking news on the Judge's List.

All that does is confuse players and cause we Judge's more problems as players pass the info from Tournament to Tournament. There's nothing like trying to "unbrainwash" players who lock onto something that sounds good!!
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I don't think it's that odd. I think it's more like "this is what we want to rule it for you but don't have permission to make it law yet". I don't understand the approval process at all, but it's possible that this is an outstanding issue with Konami and they just don't want to be wrong.
 
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It isn't a matter of being wrong, it's a matter of being consistant with what the card actually does.

Konami has other things they're worried about. Like making money.
 
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djp952 said:
I don't think it's that odd. I think it's more like "this is what we want to rule it for you but don't have permission to make it law yet". I don't understand the approval process at all, but it's possible that this is an outstanding issue with Konami and they just don't want to be wrong.
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If they can't make it law yet then should they apply this ruling in tournaments? We need to stick to one consistent set of rulings. Bringing in rulings that contradict the published rulings on tournament day can throw players completely.
 
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The latest text on the card...

Last Will
(Tournament Pack 7, Starter Decks: Yugi, Yugi Evolution)
If a monster on your side of the field was sent to your Graveyard this turn, you can Special Summon 1 monster with an ATK of 1500 points or less from your Deck once during this turn. Then shuffle your Deck.

Does anyone see any text in that card that says when the card can be activated? I must be missing something if you do....to me it just gives the resolution of the effect..not when you can activate the card and still recieve the effect.
 
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Yea weird, the way it's worded it sounds like a conditional resolution, based on whether a past event has occured or not. No Trigger in sight.

The only thing that is a clear, is that after 5+ years they still haven't figured out just how they want this effect to actually work.
 
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