Macro Monarch deck

drzero7

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Yeah, that potential CC. I can't believe I haven't seen a single Macro Cosmos designs yet.


I'm wondering if Dimension Fissure is actually better then Macro Cosmos. Mainly, I'm worried about Jinzo and Decrees. (Of course, heavy/MST/Mobius/Breaker/Dust/etc are all probs) Since Fissure is a spell, you can pack 2x MoF to save them if they get busted. For Macro Cosmos, you only got 1x Mask of Darkness. (BTW, if Macro Cosmos is destroyed, it goes to the graveyard right? Since it only RFP when it's on the field, which is not when destroyed. Kinda like how Decree doesn't negate a trap when your foe chains a MST/Dust to it) I mean, it would suck to lose my set Macro the same end phase by Dust/MST.

Anyway, here goes.

Tribute - 5

Mobius x 2
Thestalos
Zaborg x 2

Non-Tribute - 15
Breaker
D.D. Scout Plane x 2
D.D Survivor x 3
DDWL
Deko x 2
Exiled Force
Gren Maju Da Eiza
Mask of Darkness (If I can't save my Solemn/Macro with this, I'll take it out)
Skelengel x 2
Tsukuyomi

Spells - 10
Book of Moon
Chaos End (Alt. for GC, don't need Macro on the field)
Enemy Controller (Jinzo/Reaper Tech, also lacks Saku in this deck.)
Graceful Charity
Grand Convergence
MST
NoC
ROTA
Smashing
Snatch Steal

Traps - 10
BTH
Macros x 3
Mirror Force
Saku
Solemn x 3
Torrential

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Side deck possibilities (Not a full side-deck)

CotH (Can use before using Macros maybe)
Dimension Fissure x 3 (Swap between Macro against Jinzo/Decree?)
Fake Trap x 2 (If 3x Solemns are not enough?)
Heavy Storm (If I need s/t bombs)
MoF x 2 (If I swap to Fissure)
NoC (Again, if I swap Macros/Grand out.)
Premature (Can use before using Macros maybe)
RftDD x 2 (Maybe, when Macros dies, it'll be a nice OTK finisher)
Sangan (Can use before using Macros maybe)
Smashing (Same as NoC)

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I'm wondering if I should run Mask of Darkness (Save Macro or maybe even a Solemn) or am I just paranoid. Cause if you think I am paranoid and forget Mask, then I should dump Mask and tsukuyomi and throw in 2x Reapers or something. Since RFP revents Goldd bombing or other discard effects, I can hit reapers without worry as long as Macros is out.

Oh and I'm also wondering if I should take out 1x Solemn and replace it with 1x Fake Trap. Other then Jinzo/Decree, everything else, Fake Trap can do the job of what Solemn is suppost to do. (Except for maybe Giant Trunade in a Cyber-Stein decks)
 
okay, playtested this thing. And alot fo things going WRONG. Heck, this deck is WEAK AS CRAP until Macros hits the field. I need some solid things to save my ass.

So this is the update so far.

Tribute - 6

Cyber Dragon
Mobius x 2
Thestalos
Zaborg x 2

Non-Tribute - 15
A Cat of Ill Omen
Breaker
D.D Survivor x 3
DDWL
Deko x 2
[url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"][url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"]Exiled Force
Helios The Primordial Sun (The free special summon helps me out by Monarch tribute)[/url][/url]
Skelengel x 2
Spirit Reaper x 2
[url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"][url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"]Tsukuyomi[/url][/url]

Spells - 10
[url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"]Book of Moon[/url]
Enemy Controller
[url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"]Graceful Charity[/url]
Grand Convergence
MST
NoC
Premature
ROTA
Smashing
[url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"][url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"][url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"][url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"][url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"][url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"]Snatch Steal[/url][/url][/url][/url][/url][/url]

Traps - 10
BTH
Macros x 3
[url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"]Mirror Force[/url]
Saku
Solemn x 3
Torrential
 
you said helios was crappy last time around... lol

youll find your curve, remember there is no CC of this deck so you have to build it from the ground up. If your good at deckbuilding then you will find the CC of this deck or what will potentially become CC.
 
yeah, I do admit, I did say Helios is bad. I STILL hate it, especially if it's in my hand.

But I'm finding De Eiza crap until I'm already doing crazy Macro swing. I mean, to make Eiza not so much of a dead card until I get Macro, I was putting like 3x Deko and 3x Skelengel (Funny way for deck-thinning)

I might just trash Helios. I'm also trying to use D.D. Scouts in here. I KNOW it's good, it just that this card is literally crap until I get Macro swing. A least DDS can live on it's own by high ATK stat without the Macro.

And I might just dump the cat and put a 4th one. (i.e. Dimension Fissure) Or heck, forget Macro and run a Dimension Fisssure Monarch deck. (even if the spell cards end up in the grave) There's alot of case where "decent" number of spells still end up in the grave for MoF to get even with Macro Cosmos. Not to mention Jinzo/Decree REALLY is annoying for Macro. Dimension Fissure at least have to deal less with those. But at the same time, I can't use Grand Convergence, which is actually kick-ass effect. When my Macro Dies, I always chain that thing that's already set for the heck of it.
 
Another HUGE change. Basically, I added some deck speed and some form of control. (Saced more "Staples" cause of that)

And this deck NEEDS to be 40 cause I NEED to draw that Macros.

Tribute - 5
Cyber Dragon
Mobius
Thestalos
Zaborg x 2

Non-Tribute - 14
D.D. Assailant
D.D. Survivor x 3
DDWL
Deko x 2
<A href="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#" target=_blank><A href="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#" target=_blank>Exiled Force
Morphing Jar
MSlv2
Skelengel x 2
Spirit Reaper x 2

Spells - 11
[url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"]Book of Moon[/url]
Enemy Controller
[url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"]Graceful Charity[/url]
Grand Convergence
MST
NoC
ROTA x 2
Scapegoat
Smashing
[url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"][url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"][url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"][url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"][url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"][url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"]Snatch Steal[/url][/url][/url][/url][/url][/url]

Traps - 10
BTH
Macros x 3
[url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.16682#"]Mirror Force[/url]
Saku
Solemn x 3
Torrential
 
Well me and a friend made a deck similar to this after I read the comments from krazy-

What both of us found is that running 1 Grand C. is much more stable then the 2 we tried before- but one card we like for the replacement was Chaos End- It is so easy to pull off in this deck its not even funny-

One other thing we found is that this deck almost needs Donny Z.-- The able to pull from the hand straight to the RFP zone is priceless-

I would suggest dropping the Scapegoat to the Side and maining the 2nd NoC- because once you have your DDS' in play, the monarchs will run free, making your Opp. play more defensively-
Also, for a nice win condition, I would drop the BTH and Saku for 2 RftDD-- this deck can easily drop a massive return-

just a few thoughts-

EDIT-
I didnt see a Helios in there... the deck needs it for a free monarch tribute- something we learned after a full day of play-
 
Thanks for the advice.

If you look at my FIRST idea, I did indeed had Chaos End. But the fact that by the time I removed a bunch of cards into RFP area, by foe is already dead/almost dead :pIt's seems like a overkill for a "useless card until way later".

Yeah, I might put that Helios back. But I was getting pissed that I kept drawing this before Macros and thus wasting a draw.

I have 2x Reapers instead of Donny if you look at it. Yeah, less damage but it still does the discard job and it stalls till I draw my Macro Cosmos. Really, I'm packing 2x Deko AND Skelengel AND Morphing Jar JUST to pull this blasted thing out. (It's annoying that this deck is depending on something that I can't "search") I tried out the Cat but I definately dumped that too. Too slow and it's literally declaring that I'll pull a Macro on my next turn.

But yeah, Donny will be good for the fact that it's ROTA-able. You have to admit, this deck is "weak" until you get Macro on the field and "stays" on the field. (i.e. Solemn protection along with it) Really, playtest this against a deck with 2x Dust, Heavy, MST, Jinzo, 2x Mobius, Breaker, and man, it starts to fall apart FAST cause your foe will hold onto them UNTIL you hit a Macros. (they might discard Jinzo to the grave with Graceful if they have CotH/Premature)

And about the 2x NoC. I have Mystic Swordsman LV2 instead for that. yeah, they keep my foe from setting stuff :p. Mobius can hit the back-field while MSlv2, which is ROTA-able will smack all the turtles.

For this deck, I took out Thes and upped Mobius to 2x. And I'm trying to add Donny and Last Will. (Need more monster draw control. And without Sangan, it's really annoying.) But the thing that's bad about Last Will, if I have Macros on my field, Last Will is also a "dead card" >_>;
 
Huge update, hopefully, this works better.

Tribute - 4
Mobius x 2
Zaborg x 2

Non-Tribute - 14
Banisher of the Radiance
D.D. Assailant
D.D. Survivor x 3
DDWL
Deko
Exiled Force
Magical Merchant
Morphing Jar
MSlv2
Skelengel
Spirit Reaper x 2

Spells - 13
Book of Moon
Dimensional Fissure x 3
Enemy Controller
Graceful Charity
MST
NoC
ROTA x 2
Smashing
Snatch Steal
SoRL

Traps - 9
Macros x 3
Mirror Force
Saku
Solemn x 3
Torrential
 
Cat's too slow. I tested that.

Drawing Macro the first turn is NOT my prob. When I ran a 3x Macro only deck, I had cases where I NEVER DREW the freaking Macro at all for the entire DUEL! That's my prob. I want to draw it around at least mid to end of the duel ya know.
 
i c..one thing im curious about tho...i dont see any return from the different dimension in this deck...couldnt that help you like go for a end game kill..i mean ur removing almost EVERYTHING with macro....why not give urself an entire army with it...
 
Yeah, I'm thinking of that. And I also found out that 7 is TOO much. (While 3 was too little) And by 7, I mean 3x macro, 3x D Fissure, and Banisher of R. I think I'll drop it till 5x and work with that.

And man, Fissure is pretty good too. Yeah, the s/t don't the grave and thus your foe can use their MoF more often, but you can immediately play Fissure and then summon DDS. Since Macro is a trap, I either have to summon DDS and don't attack and pass and activate Macro during my foe's draw phase or something.

And man, DDS is too good. I wish I can run 5x of this thing. :p (I guess 2x ROTA and 3x DDS is kinda like 5x in your deck)

Also, the thing is, as long as my Monarchs and DDS are still on my field, I pretty much won so RftDD is not that nessessary :p

I'll say one of the big weakness of Macro is Tsukuyomi. The fact that Tsuku can flip DDS face-down which is like the only way to kill it is a prob for me. (Good for the foe though)

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Small update

Tribute - 5
Cyber Dragon
Mobius x 2
Zaborg x 2

Non-Tribute - 13
D.D. Assailant
D.D. Survivor x 3
DDWL
Deko
Exiled Force
Magical Merchant
Morphing Jar
MSlv2
Skelengel
Spirit Reaper x 2

Spells - 12
Book of Moon
Dimensional Fissure x 2
Enemy Controller
Graceful Charity
MST
NoC
ROTA x 2
Smashing
Snatch Steal
SoRL

Traps - 10
Macros x 3
Mirror Force
RftDD
Saku
Solemn x 3
Torrential
 
The_Fallen

I know this topic is a little old but hey a free bump.



Quote;


"I'll say one of the big weaknesses of Macro is Tsukuyomi. The fact that Tsuku can flip DDS face-down which is like the only way to kill it is a prob for me. (Good for the foe though)"






When you are DUI (Dueling under the influence) you notice and see things differently, lol.

For Tsukuyomi, If she flips DDS Face down then attacks him DDS will be flipped face up for damage Calculation then destroyed. Macro/Dimensional will then remove him fulfilling his requirements to be brought back during the end phase.

 
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