MoF and Desertapir

[HorusMaster]

With MoF coming back out (hopefully, if the lists are correct), a question I'm not sure about.

Player A has a set MoF and a set Desertapir.
During the Main Phase, Player A flip summons MoF and retrieves a Spell card from the graveyard. They then, flip summon Desertapir with flips another card on the field face down (except Desertapir). Player A flips MoF face down.

Can Player A flip summon MoF again or does he have to wait until next turn?

 

[Machinefreak]

I'm pretty sure that you can't. Even if MoF is flipped face-down by Desertapir, if it was already Flip Summoned during the same turn, it can't be Flip Summoned again, since you can't summon the same monster twice during the same turn (unless you used Double Summon or something).

 

[roadhouse007]

you can't change the position of your monster manually more than once in a turn. If you flip summoned it, then put it back down with desertapir or book of moon, you still already made one manual position change. On the other hand, if it were already in face up attack from the start of the turn, you could flip it down with desertapir and then flip summon it.

.......so who wants tsuki off the ban list?

EDIT: By the way, you couldn't use double summon to change the same monster's position. Completely different part of the rules.

 

[SoilentG]

Yep, they're right you can flip summon them twice in the same turn... I've been working on a deck of FLIPpers also and use Desertapir also... but, Dillie-O suggested I also put Desert Sunlight in there too since it can flip all the monsters up... and then you can set the order of the effects and then use their manual position changes after :

Active Desert Sunlight
Flip up Desertapir and MoF
Build chain: Desertapir's Effect -> MoF's Effect
Resolve chain: Pull Spell from GY using MoF's Effect then Flip MoF face down using Desertapir's Effect
Flip Summon MoF and Pull another Spell Card from GY
Flip Desertapir Face Down

Works pretty nice... and I'm excited that MoF may come off the Ban list... if she ends up on the Restricted list I'll be happy.

 

[Maruno]

Active Desert Sunlight
Flip up Desertapir and MoF
Build chain: Desertapir's Effect -> MoF's Effect
Resolve chain: Pull Spell from GY using MoF's Effect then Flip MoF face down using Desertapir's Effect
Flip Summon MoF and Pull another Spell Card from GY
Flip Desertapir Face Down

As a hint, I'll tell you to look at Desertapir's effect.

 

[SoilentG]

Implying what? Desertapir's effect is activated once Desert Sunlight is resolved... and MoF was selected as the target. D'oh... yep, delete that last line, heh... here:



Active Desert Sunlight
Flip up Desertapir and MoF
Build chain: Desertapir's Effect -> MoF's Effect
Resolve chain: Pull Spell from GY using MoF's Effect then Flip MoF face down using Desertapir's Effect
Flip Summon MoF and Pull another Spell Card from GY

Thanks Maruno for catching that.

 

[HorusMaster]

So what is the final word-that I can or can't flip summon MoF a second time after Desertapir flips MoF face-down?

A little confused judging by the thread responses? Any LV3 have a say?

 

[slither]

No you can't. You already manually changed the position that turn, you can't do it twice in the same turn. (unless it's by an effect of course)

 

[Machinefreak]

EDIT: By the way, you couldn't use double summon to change the same monster's position. Completely different part of the rules.

I was referring to Gemini Monsters, not changing monster positions when I referenced Double Summon. Thanks, though. ^_^

 

[roadhouse007]

the off-topic reference caught me offguard and I didn't even bother to think that as to what you were referencing.

But yeah, there are only 2 ways to get an extra normal summon so far: ultimate offering (mad crazy gadget deck card, 1 gadget + UO + limiter + heavy/trunade/mst = GAME?????) and double summon.

Of course, I mean using heavy/trunade after you have a field full of gadgets.....torrential and rug still suck.