kansashoops
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Was there ever an official ruling on the question of whether Spell Economics waived the life point cost for My Body as a Shield?
My Body as a Shield & Spell Economics
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Well, crud, he used to have a link to his list in his sig, but he's removed it.
No, he was just putting a list together of the cards that are REALLY confusing and giving newer card text suggestions that would help to understand how the cards work better.
No, he was just putting a list together of the cards that are REALLY confusing and giving newer card text suggestions that would help to understand how the cards work better.
masterwoo0
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No... It should just be, "Pay 1500 life points (this would be the cost to play it). Negate the activation of a card controlled by your opponent, that has the effect that destroys 1 or more monsters on the field, and destroy it (and this would simply be the effect).skey23 said:
Just some food for thought.
When your opponent activates a card that has the effect that destroys 1 or more monsters on the field, pay 1500 Life Points to negate the activation of the card and destroy it.
Read the effect carefully. The comma is what seperates the activation requirement from the cost of the card.
That's just a little food for thought for you guys. Don't read into the card text TOO much and don't compare it other cards.
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When your opponent activates a card that has the effect that destroys 1 or more monsters on the field, pay 1500 Life Points to negate the activation of the card and destroy it.
Read the effect carefully. The comma is what seperates the activation requirement from the cost of the card.
That's just a little food for thought for you guys. Don't read into the card text TOO much and don't compare it other cards.
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bottomline, you still pay the 1500 because the 1500 is not a cost to activate the card, but its a cost to save your monster(s). The cost is not associated with activating the card, just getting a card effect. Spell Economics says you don't pay to activate a Spell card, not don't pay to get the effect of the card.
thats how i read it.
thats how i read it.
mayo211 said:
But we already went over that Spell Economics will work with My Body as a Shield, since it is a COST to activate it. Skey23 posted the proof like a few pages up.
The 1500 LPs payment is a cost to activate "My Body as a Shield". When "Spell Economics" is active, you don't have to pay to activate Spell Cards. So you don't pay the 1500 LPs to activate "My Body as a Shield" when "Spell Economics" is active.Tiso said:
The thing I think that gets a lot of people about My Body as a Shield is that the wording isn't at fault here (not IMO anyway).
You have first an activation requirement that must be met in order for you to even consider activating it. Secondly, the fact that it's the only Quick-Play Spell card of this nature (that I know of) makes the wording perfect. Why would you word it with the cost first and then the activation requirement? That doesn't make any sense. That's why they worded the card the way they did.
Also, if you meet that activation requirement then the cost comes next. Skey is correct, you don't pay 1500 life points when Spell Economics is on the field (your side of course).
To me, it has a lot in common with cards like Deck Devastation Virus. It has an activation requirement, it has a cost following after it, both My Body as a Shield and Deck Devastation Virus are Spell Speed 2, and there card text wording is fine the way it is.
That's just how I see it. @_@
You have first an activation requirement that must be met in order for you to even consider activating it. Secondly, the fact that it's the only Quick-Play Spell card of this nature (that I know of) makes the wording perfect. Why would you word it with the cost first and then the activation requirement? That doesn't make any sense. That's why they worded the card the way they did.
Also, if you meet that activation requirement then the cost comes next. Skey is correct, you don't pay 1500 life points when Spell Economics is on the field (your side of course).
To me, it has a lot in common with cards like Deck Devastation Virus. It has an activation requirement, it has a cost following after it, both My Body as a Shield and Deck Devastation Virus are Spell Speed 2, and there card text wording is fine the way it is.
That's just how I see it. @_@
Lets make it clear... it's very important to understand:Tkwiget said:
An activation condition (existance/state), a trigger, a target and cost etc... ALL fall under the category of "Activation Requirements"
In the case of My Body as a Shield.
"When your opponent activates a card that has the effect that destroys 1 or more monsters on the field,"
That is a trigger...then u can react by...
"pay 1500 Life Points to negate the activation of the card and destroy it."
Exactly like SJ/Horn of Heaven or any other "triggered" card.
It is considered "Card Activation" cost because you pay it at the same time that you activate the card itself. Technically, it is both card activation cost AND effect activation cost at the same time.
As a general rule of thumb, whenever you pay a cost at the same time that you are activating (playing) a Spell/Trap card itself... it is considered card activation cost from the games' (and other effect triggers) point of view, no matter whether an effect ensues immediately from the cost or not. In event that an effect is resolved into play as well, it is also considered effect activation cost.
You would not have to pay for My Body as a Shield as long as Spell Economics is active.
Perhaps I should revive the old Erratas that Make Sense" thread with some updates. I know that I was mistaken on the resonings for at least one card and that would have affected my errata. But I had never viewed it as something useful to the community. I always viewed it as my own personal rant. 
I remember asking this months ago when I was building my Spell Economics deck, glad I was right. I was using My Body as a Shield before it was "cool". Same for Autonomous Action Unit.