Necrovalley vs ........

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Ok... some necrovalley questions......
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Necrovalley

PGD-084
Super Rare
Field Magic
As long as this card remains face up on the field, all effects of magic, trap and/or effect monster cards that involve graveyards are negated and neither player can remove cards in the graveyard from play. In addition, increase the ATK and DEF of all monsters that includes "Gravekeeper's" in their card name by 500 points.


Ok... it says "All Effects" so does that mean any card that says anything about the graveyard is negated? ALSO, does this mean that if the card has any other effects that those are also negated?

I mean i know it stops Kycoos Effect and Soul Release and Premature Burial and such... . but what happens when you get it on the field at the same time as say END OF ANUBIS??? does one cancel out the other???

The End of Anubis
Secret Rare

Fiend / Effect Monster
As long as this card remains face-up on the field, all effects of Spell, Trap, and Monster Cards that designate a card(s) in the Graveyard or that activate in the Graveyard are negated.

Type - Dark / 6 / 2500 / 0
Card Number - AST-000
 
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No they do not negate each other. Their effects are similar (as both will stop some effects), but there is overlap where you can do things while 1 is on the field, but not the other. The best suggestion I can ofter is to go read the official rulings for "Necrovalley" and "The End of Anubis" first.
 
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but what about cards that have 2 effects?? (Cant remember what they are right now, but i am sure there are some) would it cancel the whole Effect of the card? and make it so there is No effect? cuz Necro. says that it negates "All Effects" of cards that have anything to do with the graveyard.. am i reading this wrong?
 
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kingpinopie said:
but what about cards that have 2 effects?? (Cant remember what they are right now, but i am sure there are some) would it cancel the whole Effect of the card? and make it so there is No effect? cuz Necro. says that it negates "All Effects" of cards that have anything to do with the graveyard.. am i reading this wrong?
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End of anubis doesn't affect the graveyard, it affects other cards that affect the graveyard.
 
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DaGuyWitBluGlasses said:
End of anubis doesn't affect the graveyard, it affects other cards that affect the graveyard.
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Ok... it says "All Effects" so does that mean any card that says anything about the graveyard is negated? ALSO, does this mean that if the card has any other effects that those are also negated?

Sorry ... its sorta a 2 part question... the major thing i am asking is IF the card has a second effect to it, but the first one says something about the graveyard.... does Necrovalley negate both of its effects? Does that make sense? Sorry, I am not trying to be difficult here... i am just wondering because the wording of Necrovalley sort of ensenuates that it would

"As long as this card remains face up on the field, ALL EFFECTS of magic, trap and/or effect monster cards that involve graveyards are negated and neither player can remove cards in the graveyard from play. In addition, increase the ATK and DEF of all monsters that includes "Gravekeeper's" in their card name by 500 points"

so does this actually mean that if a card has more than one effect and one of them involves graveyards.... are all of its effects negated? ( sorry i probably should have worded it better originally)
 
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kingpinopie said:
"As long as this card remains face up on the field, ALL EFFECTS of magic, trap and/or effect monster cards that involve graveyards are negated and neither player can remove cards in the graveyard from play. In addition, increase the ATK and DEF of all monsters that includes "Gravekeeper's" in their card name by 500 points"

so does this actually mean that if a card has more than one effect and one of them involves graveyards.... are all of its effects negated? ( sorry i probably should have worded it better originally)
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I'd probably say no. As the card says, "All effects...that involve graveyards." The cards don't involve the graveyards, the effects do. So a card like Night Assailant wouldn't have its first effect negated, just the second effect.

As of yet, I can't find a card with two simultaneous effects that do and don't involve the graveyard. Can *anybody* find one?
 
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furryjenny said:
I'd probably say no. As the card says, "All effects...that involve graveyards." The cards don't involve the graveyards, the effects do. So a card like Night Assailant wouldn't have its first effect negated, just the second effect.

As of yet, I can't find a card with two simultaneous effects that do and don't involve the graveyard. Can *anybody* find one?
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so if necro valley is on the field. exiled force's first effect activates but the second one doesn't since its in the graveyard?
Tributing Itself (SKill Drain Doesn't Stop This. Damn Cost Effects)
Selecting On Monster On The Field To Destory (I Think It Would Negate It Since Its In The Graveyard)... please correct me if im wrong.
 
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Exiled Force would still work. Its effect does not activate in the Graveyard. Its effect activates when its cost is paid. If Banisher of the Light were on the field, for example, Exiled Force could still be used and its effect would still be successful.

Necrovalley would not stop this effect regardless. Necrovalley stops those effects that seek to alter the Graveyard (such as Monster Reborn or Soul Release). It doesn't stop those effects that activate in the Graveyard (such as Witch of the Black Forest).
 
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Necrovalley Rulings

Hi

Go here to find out exactly what the rulings are for Necrovalley:

- http://www.netrep.net
- Click the link for Rules & FAQs
- Scroll down and click the link for 'Specific Card Questions & Answers'
- Click the link for 'N-P'
- Scroll down to find Necrovalley and read it

These words are the same as you will find on the official UpperDeck Entertainment site http://www.upperdeckentertainment.com/yugioh

Happy reading
Wizit

ps. I play a Necrovalley / Gravekeeper deck to good effect
 
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hey-
just so you know, twin-headed behemoth, dark necrofear's return effect, vampire lord's return effect, and sinister serpent's effect are not negated by necrovalley, but end of anubis would cover that

-chaosruler
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