nobleman-eater bug

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is there a mistake in the rulings on ronin, or is the card text wrong?
it states "destroy 2 monsters on the field" so it must target 2 monsters, and if there is only 1 its effect shouldn't activate(like Dark Cat with White Tail)...but the rulings say

"¢ If "Nobleman-Eater Bug" is the only monster on the field and it is flipped face-up, then it destroys itself with its effect.
 
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If you are talking about Ruling # 2;
  1. If you activate the effect of "Nobleman-Eater Bug" and select 2 monsters, then "Ring of Destruction" is chained and destroys 1 of the selected monsters, you still destroy the remaining monster when "Nobleman-Eater Bug"'s effect resolves.
  2. If "Nobleman-Eater Bug" is the only monster on the field and it is flipped face-up, then it destroys itself with its effect.
I believe it is mandatory as a result of it's effect. You select two monsters to be destroyed but if there are no others on the field, it must use itself for the effect.

If I'm wrong, let me know folks.
 
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You're right Sirch. Completely. Example: if Nobleman-Eater Bug is attacked by a Attack-position Aqua Madoor (strange, I know, but... it is an example), and the opponent, who attacked, chains Interdimensional Matter Transporter when he saw what card he attacked, Nobleman must choose 2 targets: the attacking monster (not Aqua Madoor, since he went already out of play by the effect of IMT) and Nobleman itself, because they are the only monsters on the field. However, only Nobleman is destroyed, since he is still on the field while his effect resolves, while Aqua Madoor is out of play.
 
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BenjaminMS said:
You're right Sirch. Completely. Example: if Nobleman-Eater Bug is attacked by a Attack-position Aqua Madoor (strange, I know, but... it is an example), and the opponent, who attacked, chains Interdimensional Matter Transporter when he saw what card he attacked, Nobleman must choose 2 targets: the attacking monster (not Aqua Madoor, since he went already out of play by the effect of IMT) and Nobleman itself, because they are the only monsters on the field. However, only Nobleman is destroyed, since he is still on the field while his effect resolves, while Aqua Madoor is out of play.
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Unfortunately, your example doesn't work.

"Interdimensional Matter Transporter" can't be activated during the Damage Step. By the time the defending monster is flipped, you've already entered the Damage Step. So it's too late to try to save your attacking monster. So both monsters would still be destroyed by "Nobleman-Eater Bug"s effect.

Also, the reason that "Nobleman-Eater Bug" can destroy itself in this example was because it wasn't destroyed as a result of battle. Just in case somebody was gonna mention that as well.

Hope this helps.
 
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skey23 said:
Unfortunately, your example doesn't work.

"Interdimensional Matter Transporter" can't be activated during the Damage Step. By the time the defending monster is flipped, you've already entered the Damage Step. So it's too late to try to save your attacking monster. So both monsters would still be destroyed by "Nobleman-Eater Bug"s effect.

Also, the reason that "Nobleman-Eater Bug" can destroy itself in this example was because it wasn't destroyed as a result of battle. Just in case somebody was gonna mention that as well.

Hope this helps.
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Of course... keep on forgetting that *knocks with the head on a door, to ask the question*.
 
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So on the other hand the ruling says that, if only one monster is on the field this one monster is destroyed. Here comes the problem. Look at the rulings of Greenkappa. Greenkappa says almost the same like the Nobleman-Eater Bug but the targets are face-down Trap/Magiccards.
The difference at the rulings is, that Greenkappa´s effect will Disappear if there is only one legal target. But i don´t see any difference in the two cardtexts except the targets.
So why are these cards ruled so differently ??
greetz
Xe0
 
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-Xe0- said:
So on the other hand the ruling says that, if only one monster is on the field this one monster is destroyed. Here comes the problem. Look at the rulings of Greenkappa. Greenkappa says almost the same like the Nobleman-Eater Bug but the targets are face-down Trap/Magiccards.
The difference at the rulings is, that Greenkappa´s effect will Disappear if there is only one legal target. But i don´t see any difference in the two cardtexts except the targets.
So why are these cards ruled so differently ??
greetz
Xe0
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Probably because Nobleman targets monsters (the category he is in), while Greenkappa targets S/T-cards. However, I think Greenkappa's ruling should be look like the ruling of Mobius.

EDIT: the phrase is else... hmm... Konami/UDE makes it very difficult with such things, to don't make such things mandatory about the amount of S/T destroyed.
 
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