Non-Spellcasting Area rulings contradiction?

[drew]

There seems to be an obvious contradiction in the rulings for Non-Spellcasting Area.


Ruling 5. says

[Re: Burst Stream of Destruction] It is an effect of "Burst Stream of Destruction" that "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" cannot attack, so if "Non-Spellcasting Area" is on the field, "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" CAN attack. If "Imperial Order" is activated later, "Burst Stream of Destruction"'s effect is negated and "Blue-Eyes White Dragon" CAN attack.

While ruling 10. says

[Re: Inferno Fire Blast] If you activate "Inferno Fire Blast" while "Non-Spellcasting Area" is active, the effect of "Inferno Fire Blast" disappears.

How come 2 very similar cards in the same situation will yield such different outcomes? When you activate Burst Stream of Destruction with Non-Spell Casting Area on the field, your Blue-Eyes White Dragon CAN attack, but the same logic does not apply to Inferno Fire Blast and Red-Eyes Black Dragon? Is this some sort of elitist favoritism towards Kaiba fans?


Or am I missing something very basic here? Can they both be right at the same time?

 

[masterwoo0]

Burst Stream of Destruction normally would affect Blue-Eyes White Dragon were it not for Non-Spellcasting Area.

As long as there is a BEWD on the field, you can still activate Burst Stream of Destruction. That Non-Spellcasting Area is on the field has no relevance.

The fact that the second effect would normally cause BEWD to be unable to attack DOES affect BEWD, but that part is negated due to Non-Spellcasting Area. Thats why he can attack. You can still play the Spell Card because it is only looking for a BEWD to meet the requirement for activation.

 

[Entilzha]

Burst Stream of Destruction does actully target a Blue Eyes to resolve it just needs ther to be atleast one face up on the field to activate.

Inferno Fire Blast actually targets the Red Eyes Black Dragon trying to resolve using the Red Eyes original attack to do damage to your opponate which it can't cause Red Eyes is a normal monster and Non-Spellcasting Area prevetes it from effecting the Red Eyes.

 

[masterwoo0]

Entilzha got it right on Inferno Fire Blast. If you notice in the first line, it states that you must select 1 face-up Red-Eyes B. Dragon.

That would be the same as trying to use the effect of Snatch Steal. Once it tries to target, the effect of Non-Spellcasting Area kicks in and causes Red-Eyes B. Dragon to be unaffected.

 

[drew]

So I see.

Burst Stream of Destruction - BEWD on the field is an Activation Requirement
vs.
Inferno Fire Blast - Targets REBD on the field in order to resolve, therefore it follows Non-Spellcasting Area will negate its targetting effect.

Thanks.

 

[anthonyj]

Correct, as well as:

Burst Stream causing BEWD to not be able to attack is an effect of Burst Stream so the effect can be negated by Imperial Order or Non-Spellcasting Area.

Inferno Fire Blast causing the targeted Red Eyes B. Dragon to not attack is a condition. Conditions are not negated by Imperial Order or Non-Spellcasting Area.

 

[DaGuyWitBluGlasses]

Inferno Fire Blast causing the targeted Red Eyes B. Dragon to not attack is a condition. Conditions are not negated by Imperial Order or Non-Spellcasting Area.

Inferno Fire Blast prevents ALL Red-Eyes B. Dragon from attacking, not just the targeted one.

 

[masterwoo0]

I think the main point is missed here. Non-Spellcasting Area doesnt even let Inferno Fire Blast touch Red-Eyes B. Dragon, so there would be no condition to prevent him from attacking if it was never targeted.

 

[DaGuyWitBluGlasses]

I think the main point is missed here. Non-Spellcasting Area doesnt even let Inferno Fire Blast touch Red-Eyes B. Dragon, so there would be no condition to prevent him from attacking if it was never targeted.

But Red-Eyes B. Dragon won't be able to attack if Inferno Fire Blast is activated, regardless of Non-Spellcasting Area.

Inferno Fire Blast cannot check the ATK of red-eyes but it will 'activate/resolve' as much as possible and will place the condition on the game that any copy of Red-Eyes B. Dragon cannot attack.

 

[anthonyj]

But Red-Eyes B. Dragon won't be able to attack if Inferno Fire Blast is activated, regardless of Non-Spellcasting Area.

Inferno Fire Blast cannot check the ATK of red-eyes but it will 'activate/resolve' as much as possible and will place the condition on the game that any copy of Red-Eyes B. Dragon cannot attack.

I don't think that is accurate. If Non-Spellcasting Area is already active when Inferno Fire Blast is activated then Inferno Fire Blast will not inflict damage and will not prevent any attacks. The "condition" could not be placed on the Red-Eyes B. Dragon because it is currently unaffected by Spell cards.