OTK Des Frog

SS64

SS64

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Ricen, and what ruling would that be?

You have too many Spells and Monsters and too little Traps. Not to mention a lot of your Spells just do not seem like they should be in there. I would actually run 3 Des Croaking just because it is going to be your OTK theme. I would also run the Fusion D.3.S Frog. Yes I know he is weaksauce now that Treeborn Frog is at one, but using a De-Fusion after it attacked would be pretty cool. I would try out Chain Destruction, take out the 3 Nimbles and put in another Beelze Frog. I do not see what Scapegoat is going to do for you.
 
well since its an optional effect if its not the last thing in the chain u miss its timing like say if u have a face-up Poison Draw Frog and u sack for mobius and u use mobius' effect to destroy s/t cards on the field u wouldn't get Poison Draw Frogs effect or am i incorrect on this
 
now wait,Posion draw missed timing?how?
it just needs to go to the graveyard to active.Mobius actives when its on the field.
heres the chain:
i tribe Frog -> goes to graveyard (and actives there)->i draw a card (end of chain)
(new chain) monster is summoned w/ effect

same could be said for Sangan

as far as De-Fusion goes , 1 major problem :
In addition, if all the Fusion Material Monsters that were used for the Fusion Summon.

I cant even use metamorph w/ this snice its not a proper fusion summon,never mind the fact that u need 3 trees for it to be effective.

this deck somewhat relys on my opp. monsters and is purly situational.And believe or not,its almost impossible to get Des Frogs out in OTK form.
 
Inferno Reckless Summon it and Special Hurricane comes to mind.[/QUOTE]
another card to shoot down in this deck....what cards to SP monsters out (remeber they have to be face up)?
ok 1 premat,1 call......and nothing else
and what would i get in return?

-opp. gets monsters in the graveyard , the orginal monster is still on the field, and i waste my hand and those monsters on the field, extremly hard to active, cannot be used on Des Frogs
+ i get rid of monsters out of my deck and to the graveyard,where they need to be

-4/2 +2/0
Inferno-ok maybe side
and Special?i have tons of those becuz i just bought a box of AST which i now kind of regret (i was looking for E-controller but with no avail).

ok im not even going to say anymore.

i mean thanks for answering but most of these cards are too situational.Way too much draw backs and not enough reward
 
SS64 said:
now wait,Posion draw missed timing?how?
it just needs to go to the graveyard to active.Mobius actives when its on the field.
heres the chain:
i tribe Frog -> goes to graveyard (and actives there)->i draw a card (end of chain)
(new chain) monster is summoned w/ effect

same could be said for Sangan

as far as De-Fusion goes , 1 major problem :
In addition, if all the Fusion Material Monsters that were used for the Fusion Summon.

I cant even use metamorph w/ this snice its not a proper fusion summon,never mind the fact that u need 3 trees for it to be effective.

this deck somewhat relys on my opp. monsters and is purly situational.And believe or not,its almost impossible to get Des Frogs out in OTK form.
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You must be doing something wrong if you are not able to get 3 Des Frogs out on the field or in your hand. Des Frog summons itself to the field under the right conditions so I do not see how hard it would be to Polymerization them into a D.3.S Frog after you activated a Des Chorus to wipe their field. Then attack with it, then De-Fusion it. Why would you even bother to Metamorphosis for it when you can easily Fusion Summon it?

Poison Draw Frog will missing timing regardless. The last thing to happen is Mobius the Frost Monarch being summoned. Both Poison Draw Frog and Mobius the Frost Monarch are optional effects, unlike Sangan which is a manditory effect. How does this Deck rely on your opponent's monsters. It relies on you being able to get all 3 Des Frogs out on the field, which is nothing when it is so easy to do so.
 
try adding a Soul Exchange or 2 in your deck....you need to trib summon Des Frog to get it's effect...so why waste a monster on your side of the firld when you can waste one of theirs instead.

also need a way of adding more tadpoles to you gy faster...graceful and Abyss Soldier are good, but i also use cards that require me to discard from m hand or field (Horn of Heaven is fun if i have a tadpole on the field to use it with)
 
Tiso said:
You must be doing something wrong if you are not able to get 3 Des Frogs out on the field or in your hand. Des Frog summons itself to the field under the right conditions so I do not see how hard it would be to Polymerization them into a D.3.S Frog after you activated a Des Chorus to wipe their field. Then attack with it, then De-Fusion it. Why would you even bother to Metamorphosis for it when you can easily Fusion Summon it?
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You need 3 Treeborns for it to be summoned useing polymer
not 3 Des Frogs

the only legal cards to get D.3.S is metamorph and cyber stein

ok im gonna take the ablyss soldiers for merchants
also Scapegoat and Cold Wave for 2x Damage Condenser
 
o whoops,sorry man forgot to read the card it self.
my mistake.

well yea its an ok card, i wish there was a lil' support for it other than De-Fusion.

right now, i dont have any polyers anyway and im a bit lazy to rethink.

i see how it can work but Des Croaking alone is already a bad top deck, now i have to add polymers and its support?

i give it a try when i gets some polys and some support w/it.
 
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