pain in the butt cards

[krazykidpsx]

the one card i think that will get banned next will be Exiled Forced.

at 1 it wasnt a big deal at 2..., prepare to see this puppy gone the next list.

i noticed that Konami tends to fully abuse a card before its killed. except for card that totally see no play. ::cough:: Vampire Lord ::Cough::

 

[Fiendishly1138]

I'd like to see them ban some of thos cards that people just "splash" into any deck. The one's tht people cookie cutter and say it's (whatever deck type they rationalize it as to make themselves feel better for having no ingenuity) Seriously, let's get rid of:

Breaker the Magical Warrior
D.D. Assailant
D.D. Warrioir Lady
Spirit Reaper
Mobius the Frost Monarch
Mystic Swordsman Lv2
Exiled Force

and Maybe even (though they're not quite as "splashy")
Creature Swap
Ring Of Destruction
Mirror Force

and see if we can get people to actually THINK about their decks. Instead of having decks like we did a BAn List or two ago, where it seemed like there was only 1 or two cards difference in the deck Archtypes. You have to admit, decks would be a lot more creative and variant if we got rid of those cards.

 

[Digital Jedi]

I'd like to see them ban some of thos cards that people just "splash" into any deck. The one's tht people cookie cutter and say it's (whatever deck type they rationalize it as to make themselves feel better for having no ingenuity) Seriously, let's get rid of:

Breaker the Magical Warrior
D.D. Assailant
D.D. Warrioir Lady
Spirit Reaper
Mobius the Frost Monarch
Mystic Swordsman Lv2
Exiled Force

and Maybe even (though they're not quite as "splashy")
Creature Swap
Ring Of Destruction
Mirror Force

and see if we can get people to actually THINK about their decks. Instead of having decks like we did a BAn List or two ago, where it seemed like there was only 1 or two cards difference in the deck Archtypes. You have to admit, decks would be a lot more creative and variant if we got rid of those cards.

That would be an interesting ban list, to be sure. It would also do what the first ban list did two years ago. Filter out the players who really love the game form the players who only play for "glory". We could use another filtering out.

 

[Maruno]

That would be an interesting ban list, to be sure. It would also do what the first ban list did two years ago. Filter out the players who really love the game form the players who only play for "glory". We could use another filtering out.

Let's ban the Limited cards.

 

[anthonyj]

Understanding that this game is already a bit lopsided in "good cards" vs. "cards released in a set" you can probably see where banning the one to three truly sought after cards from each set is going to give a bad taste to people who bought a lot of packs in order to get their hands on the cards they truly wanted.

I enjoy playing games in alternative formats. Common only decks back before reprints had started to give us so many of the cookie cutter cards as commons, no limited cards, or other house-rule tournaments are very enjoyable ways to get the creative juices flowing. But making such a large ban list would likely create some negativity.

 

[krazykidpsx]

Understanding that this game is already a bit lopsided in "good cards" vs. "cards released in a set" you can probably see where banning the one to three truly sought after cards from each set is going to give a bad taste to people who bought a lot of packs in order to get their hands on the cards they truly wanted.

I enjoy playing games in alternative formats. Common only decks back before reprints had started to give us so many of the cookie cutter cards as commons, no limited cards, or other house-rule tournaments are very enjoyable ways to get the creative juices flowing. But making such a large ban list would likely create some negativity.

not to mention find another CC deck so that people can complain about the cards in that deck and eventually have nothing but Pot of Genorocity in triplicate in every deck.

now that would be something.

 

[gigavenom]

ijust been to a torament meant and every one was using "graceful chaity" so i won't be surprised if it gets banded again it was the same with ......(with fear)mirror fore

 

[Oceanus]

I had a feeling that would happen to spellcaster deck , they lost such a big power loss with both chaos sorcerer and tsukuyomi banned. But I agree that return from a d.d should go doen to one at least. and jinzo will see more play now that so many traps are being used /and no snatch steal

Eh, a spellcaster deck with Tsuki and Sorceror was just a Tsuki and Sorceror deck =/ In fact, in was Jerome who described how the two didn't really add to the Spellcaster theme, they in fact made spellcasters harder to work, involving the removing, the anti-field presence, and such. The thing is, is that it's true =/

http://www.metagame.com/yugioh.aspx?tabid=33&ArticleId=6967

 

[theallmightypoe]

cept for Bazoo if anyone still uses him...

RAWR I do . 15th at regionals with it bwahahahahaha!!

RFTDD should not be banned!!! i say this not only because I run a bazoo deck. But because that about 50% of the time, it is a dead draw and i have to use to block an attack, or it will get destroyed early game by a MST when i set it as a bluff. It gives off a great effect, but honestly, to allow your opponent to get an opening to hit you with their removed monsters, isn't the card's fault.


But onto the thread...What I think should be banned? Nothing really. I think some things should be limited or Restricted. but I think the banlist now is fine.

Mobius and the other monarchs should be put down to 1 each just to make decks more interesting, rather than just having a thes, mobius, or zaborg heavy monarch deck.

 

[ricencracker]

i would be rather mad if mobius went down to one cuz i'm the only person in my area (that i know of) that has been running a water deck since the start of the last ban list also not to mention i run 3 ultimate versions that look oh so pretty to only have one copy in my deck

 

[theallmightypoe]

i would be rather mad if mobius went down to one cuz i'm the only person in my area (that i know of) that has been running a water deck since the start of the last ban list also not to mention i run 3 ultimate versions that look oh so pretty to only have one copy in my deck

I only have one Ultimate Version.....but yea If one is sexy, 3 must be uber sexy.

How is the water deck working? I've seen many decks come out on top lately, so im just wondering...

 

[ricencracker]

i was being lazy and didn't change it much going into the fort worth regionals, cuz i didn't think about thinning it to 40 and my side deck was just put together that morning, but i came out 14th place so i say it was a really good test run

 

[Necromancer]

pain in the butt cards

I would personally like to see Royal Decree & Cyber Dragon restricted. I'd also like to see Cyber Stein banned.
I can dream, can I not?
I just hope we don't have another 5 or so months of being "Steined" or annoyed by the abuse of cheap special summon monsters. *just look at the top 8 Boston SJC decks for reference.
I hope some unorthodox decks will win for a change (A Freed the Brave Wanderer deck nearly did)
Let's see if we can get more diversity into the game, as opposed to mere originality.
Oh yeah, I've been itching to use this emoticon:
Cyber Dragon
Cyber Stein
Ring of Destruction =
:broken

 

[MightyDingo]

I have gone back and forth on Stein. I think it is fine, maybe limit or restrict it next time, but it is manageable. Sure I got blasted by it last tourney, but next time it will be much tougher. Divine Wrath, Solemn Judgment or BTH shuold handle things. Also going right after the LP with Ceasefire or Magic Cylinder can turn the Stein into a dead draw pretty quickly.

 

[OKShadow]

the one card i think that will get banned next will be Exiled Forced.

at 1 it wasnt a big deal at 2..., prepare to see this puppy gone the next list.

i noticed that Konami tends to fully abuse a card before its killed. except for card that totally see no play. ::cough:: Vampire Lord ::Cough::

Hey, "BUDDY", I use Vampire Lord!! My old Zombie Mill deck has two of them and Genesis in the side deck. Now with the IRS and Hidden Soldiers, I get MORE speed with it. Twice now dumped 30 of my opp's cards off the deck in one turn.

 

[english chef]

Rather than outright banning cards, perhaps they could introduce "dependencies", with the more powerful cards being allowed at the cost of having less powerful cards having to be included.

e.g. You may include 1 copy of Change of heart in your deck only if you have 3 copies of shapesnatch in your maindeck.


Perhaps this should be done by rewriting the cards to only allow the cards to be activated if there is another, less used card on the field. For example, there is a Japanese card called Makiu that has a raigeki-like effect, but only works if there is a summoned skull or thunder monster on the field...

 

[Necromancer]

That'd be a cool idea..
ie, you can have 3 copies of Night Assailant in your deck only if your deck also contains 3 Slate Warriors
*i'd be in that.

 

[Maruno]

Or have some really powerful cards, but have their effect state, "All Monster Cards in your Deck must be EARTH" or similar. That'd make people think twice about non-thematic Decks.

 

[Jackalghost]

Overall, this banlist is the best I have seen. People can finally quit complaining about Chaos. But strike, Bazoo, and Freed will see bigger play, because people love to use RftDD. I think that they should limit Rftdd, Stein, Decree, Monarchs. Then people woould finally have to build original decks. I think that the Monarchs are useful, but not so powerful they need to be banned. I wanna see a Mausoleum deck take a regional or SJC. Use those 7-8 star monsters we have collecting dust in our binders. *Looks over at Mystical Knight of Jackal with thoughts of mayhem in my head*, that would be a big boost for people to come up with original decks.

 

[Fiendishly1138]

Theese seem to be the predominent opinions of players (or, at least those in my area) of how we could make decks more varied than with just the ban list alone.

The big two that I can think of are:
a) have it work like in the video games.
1. Give each card a numerical value
2. Make a limit of how high your deck cost can go
3. Make it so that as you progress your max. deck cost DOESN'T go up (unlike the games)
4. Make it so that the value of cards in your deck change depending on if you have certain other cards in your deck.

Granted, the judges in the tournament would have to do some extra math, and someone would have to decide on the values of the cards, but it would make things interesting.

The only problem is that it isn't very practial. It would take forever. If you had a computer program that assigned and checked the values for you, that would speed things up. And maybe have people send decklists ahead of time and run them through.

Or, (and this is the better one in my opinion)
b) You could make it so that you could only have a max of (v)rares, (w) super rares, (x) Ultra rares, (y) ultimate rares, and (z) Secret rares in your deck (and with the reprints, each card would be applied to max. of whatever the rarest form is).
(Hey cool, VWXYZ)

If say, 10-15 of the cards in your deck had to be commons, then that would really vary things up.

Just something to think about. Though, I'm sure if we all put our heads together, we could come up with something better.