Parasite Paracide

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John Danker

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I can't seem to dig up a ruling on what happens when Parasite Paracide is drawn from the deck (face up, it's the opposing player's monster) and all 5 of the player's monster zones are filled. Obviously it won't inflict the 1000 lp damage but will it be destroyed or go the the hand?

I'm assuming destroyed much as when Change of Heart or Snatch Steal resolves and the field has 5 monsters on that side of the field.
 
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I would say it would be destroyed. Its trying to sent to the field. Just like if you change of heart then fill there field with monsters/tokens then end, the monster would be destroyed.
 
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I agree. It would make the most sense for it to be destroyed since there were no available monster card spaces. I'm not so sure about the damage though.

It says "When your opponent draws this card, it is Special Summoned on your opponent's side of the field in face-up Defense Position and inflicts 1000 points of damage to your opponent's Life Points."

The damage seems to be dependant upon the successful drawing of the card, not the Special Summon of the card.
 
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skey23 said:
The damage seems to be dependant upon the successful drawing of the card, not the Special Summon of the card.
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On this point I have to disagree...

Put this card face-up in your opponent's Deck and shuffle it. When your opponent draws this card, it is Special Summoned on your opponent's side of the field in face-up Defense Position and inflicts 1000 points of damage to your opponent's Life Points. Then all face-up monsters on your opponent's side of the field become Insect-Type as long as this card remains face-up on the field.

Notice that the 1000 points of damage comes after the summon.
 
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John Danker said:
On this point I have to disagree...

Put this card face-up in your opponent's Deck and shuffle it. When your opponent draws this card, it is Special Summoned on your opponent's side of the field in face-up Defense Position and inflicts 1000 points of damage to your opponent's Life Points. Then all face-up monsters on your opponent's side of the field become Insect-Type as long as this card remains face-up on the field.

Notice that the 1000 points of damage comes after the summon.
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Ahh, but notice how it says AND...
"When it is drawn, it is Special Summoned AND it inflicts 1000 damage."
There are two dependencies on the drawing of the card, the Special Summon and the damage.

It doesn't say "When this card is Special Summoned it inflicts 1000 damage."

See my point?
 
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skey23 said:
Ahh, but notice how it says AND...
"When it is drawn, it is Special Summoned AND it inflicts 1000 damage."
There are two dependencies on the drawing of the card, the Special Summon and the damage.

It doesn't say "When this card is Special Summoned it inflicts 1000 damage."

See my point?
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Either way both requirements can't be fulfilled so the damage isn't applied.
 
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"When it is drawn, it is Special Summoned AND it inflicts 1000 damage."

These seem pretty independent to me. The dependency is upon it being drawn. When it is drawn, it is special summoned. when it is drawn, it inflicts 1000 damage... Hmmm.
 
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John Danker said:
Either way both requirements can't be fulfilled so the damage isn't applied.
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But there is onle ONE requirement, the card being drawn.
JOLs said:
The dependency is upon it being drawn. When it is drawn, it is special summoned. when it is drawn, it inflicts 1000 damage... Hmmm.
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That's what I am saying. (or trying to say..lol)
 
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Netrepâ„¢ Files 6.0b said:
If a face-up "Parasite Paracide" is drawn when the opponent has all monster zones filled, "Parasite Paracide" goes to the Graveyard and the effect of "Parasite Paracide" Disappears.
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That is from the trusty old Netrepâ„¢ Files. (showing a bit of dust these days ;))

I've always found in cases like this where specifics are needed, rulings tend to use wording that leaves holes. However, in this case, saying that Paracites effect "dissappears" indicates that no resolution is taking place at all. So, my guess is that Paracite is not destroyed and does not inflict damage.

An "and" wording is inclusive, either both occur or niether.
 
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about Parasite Paracide...

Duelist play with different colored sleeves... say if Player1 has Player2's Paracite Paraside face-up within the deck, Player1's sleeves are Green, Player2's sleeves are Red:

Player2 can see clearly where Parasite Paracide is placed within Player1's deck, being that they own different colored sleeves.

If an effect that causes decks to be shuffled, is Player2 allowed to cut the deck in any manner that Player1 would draw and trigger Parasite Paracide's effect faster?
 
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