priority question

[woltarr]

scenario

player 1 has a torrential tribute face down

player 2 has a face up cannon soldier

it is player 2 turn

player 2 sumon drilago

player 1 responds to the sumon with TT

it is possible that player 1 claims for priority and activate the efct of cannon soldier?

thank you very much for the imputs


woltarr

 

[chaosruler]

Player 1 should have asked if the opponent would use priority before flipping Torrential Tribute. Regardless, Cannon Soldier's effect can be used once on either monster, tributing that monster as a cost, then all other monsters will be destroyed

Also, Player 2 is the only one that can tribute monsters for Cannon Soldier , and it would be player 2 who would have priority, not player 1

-chaosruler

 

[unclepez]

I thought Cannon Soldier can only activate it's effect on priority when it is summoned. If another monster is summoned, only the new monster that is summoned should get priority (which he can't do anything since Drillago does not have a trigger effect).

Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[DaGuyWitBluGlasses]

When a player has priority to respond to a summon that player may activate any face-up ignition effect.

An ignition-effect monster itself never has priority.

 

[Dan the Homunculus Man]

Can't player 1 activate traps in response to the summon of Drillago before player 2 can activate Cannon Soldiers effect to tribute a monster for 500 lp damage?

 

[nkarunatilaka]

Only if its a counter trap or something that has a higher spell speed than that of Cannon Soldier's iginition effect.

For example like Horn of Heaven or solemn judgement.

 

[Dan the Homunculus Man]

Well isn't Cannon Soldiers effect spell speed 1? Torrential Tribute is spell speed 2

 

[nkarunatilaka]

But as the turn player, that player has priority to respond to a summon; so therefore that player may activate any face-up ignition effect of a monster he/she controls; aka Cannon Soldier's effect.

 

[roadhouse007]

This is just like BLS or Chaos Sorcerer. When they are Special Summoned the player has the option to use Priority to Remove one Monster on the field from play. When a player summons and is not given a chance to use or pass priority, and you chain something like BTH or TT, they are more likely to call their priority because it was skipped and activate an effect.

 

[krazykidpsx]

okay, priority isnt complicated.

priority = the Turn player will be and is the first link in the chain unless they pass on their priority.

now, a monster summoned onto the field first must be successfully summoned in order for the turn player to claim priority using one of his Ignition effect monsters.

what does that mean, basically i try and summon a Drillago i ask if the monster will be summoned succesfully and i ask this because its a good way to not jump the gun. they calim to use Horn of Heaven or solem, okay, the monster never made it to the field. and since it never made it nobody can use torrential or bottomless, correct? correct.

okay now lets say the summon is successfully your opponent must ask you if you would like to use your priority to activate an ignition effect. IT DOESNT MATTER IF THEY WILL RESPOND OR NOT. they should ask and you as the turn player should give a honest answer, if its no, then its no, if its yes then move on to do the ignition effect.


only because you ask it doesnt mean you really will activate anything in the first place, its just curtosy and a way to keep the game on track. because you dont want to end up in a sitaution were they go. oh, they never asked if i were to use priority or something similar to that.

you jumpin the gun is what gives hints to your opponent. Not asking them a simple question as if they would like to activate an ignition effect.

Parania leads to alot of mistakes, just remember the simple question, "Sir would you like to use an ignition effect monster?"

 

[roadhouse007]

Right. All I was trying to say is the type of situation you run into at tournaments because players try to be opportunists. A player summons Cannon Soldier, and without warning their opponent goes "Trap Hole to the summon." A lot of the time, if the player wants to, I have seen where players go "hey, I was going to use my priority to fling Cannon Soldier and you would not have been able to Trap Hole."

It actually one time in a match at a regionals came down to my knowing priority in me winning during sudden death. In one turn, my opponent attacked my Sangan and destroyed it, but it was in defense. I searched Cannon Soldier. Come my turn, I drew, didn't bother to look at the card I drew because I just went summon Cannon Soldier, fling. He tried to Book of Moon and it came down to I used priority to tribute Cannon Soldier himself for his own effect to do 500 direct. The judges would have ruled it too, but I knew what I was going to do and wasn't afraid of his cards because I knew I didn't have to be.

But you are right that a lot of players jump the gun instead of asking the turn player to acknowledge and use or pass on their priority. It is a mistake I see all the time. And asking your opponent about their priority upon each summon keeps them on their toes, too!