priority question

woltarr

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can i use priority to activate a counter trap and, in this manner, stop oponent from activate cards in response because the spell speed of his cards would be inferior?

like activate solemm judgement against the sumon of my own monster?

(thinking in jowgen decks)

or priority is somthing that occurs after the sumon is succesfull and , in this way, i could not activate a counter traps using priority?

woltarr
 
Well, not quite. You're thinking more of the standard chaining rules when you start talking about Counter-Traps. Turn Player Priority has to do primarily with the ability to activate a newly summoned monster's effect before your opponent has the chance to respond to it's summon.

Check this thread out to start with, and then search the forums for "priority". There are a bazillion topics about it out here.

http://www.cogonline.net/threads.2181
 
I'm afraid I'd have to disagree in principle with your statement. Turn player priority has to do primarily with the turn player's right to begin a chain in any given phase (generally speaking)

You can use priority after summoning a monster to activate a counter trap (assuming the timing and conditions are correct)
 
John Danker said:
I'm afraid I'd have to disagree in principle with your statement. Turn player priority has to do primarily with the turn player's right to begin a chain in any given phase (generally speaking)

You can use priority after summoning a monster to activate a counter trap (assuming the timing and conditions are correct)

Farbeit for me to disagree with you of all people! I shall stand corrected and take my own advice to brush up on the concept. It seems my take on it is .. outdated? :D
 
Well....yes. When the concept of priority was first introduced it was widely referred to as "Summoning priority" or "Monster priority"

As the practice was more clearly defined it was known that summoning was only a facet of what priority is about. More clearly defined monsters do not have priority, rather, players have priority, in general, as I stated in the previous post.
 
Oh well, maybe some day Konami will drop the bureucracy and give Kevin the info he needs to release the completed Priority essay, and have it completely accurate to the OCG rules.
 
daivahataka said:
Oh well, maybe some day Konami will drop the bureucracy and give Kevin the info he needs to release the completed Priority essay, and have it completely accurate to the OCG rules.

I read on Pojo a while ago that he already has finished the eassy but Konami didn't agree with it. The only thing we can do is ask questions on the Judgelist and make a logic of the anwsers.
 
Duelmaster said:
I read on Pojo a while ago that he already has finished the eassy but Konami didn't agree with it. The only thing we can do is ask questions on the Judgelist and make a logic of the anwsers.
Heard about that too, I'm just assuming that they feel there's something wrong with/missing from it and as usual are treating the solutions as though they are industrial secrets.
 
It's usually the EXACT wording Konami has trouble with.....they also use delays like this when they're not quite all together certain themselves to it gives them time to figure it out themselves.....while saving face.

It might be a "Go back and reword it and cross the t's and dot the I's while we figure out if we know what the heck we're talking about ourselves" kind of delay.
 
Sounds soo like the customers I've to deal with day to day, half the time they'll even Supply the wrong spec.s on their product and then expect us to perform the impossible and manage to machine it anyway, I note this problem seems to occur the most with Japanese customers....
 
As far as I'm concerned the essay did help A LOT of people grasp the whole concpt of priority a whole lot better. So I'll stick to the "wait and let us think" approach from Konami idea
 
John Danker said:
"The essay" <shaking head cartoon style> IEIEIEIEIEIEIEIEI......what did I miss? I wasn't aware that there HAS been an essay on priority by Kevin made public.
The essay he posted on the juges list a while back was viewable to the general public.
 
Digital Jedi said:
The essay he posted on the juges list a while back was viewable to the general public.

Okay, I must REALLY be missing something here....I'm usually much better informed on these things than this.

The first post in the public judge's list is Kevin's battle step chart....THAT I've seen. I haven't, however, seen ANY essay on priority in the judge's list nor have I seen it in the L3 judge's list, nor have I heard it discussed among any of the judges L1-L3.

Could someone please give me a link to this "priority essay" of which you speak?
 
John Danker said:
Okay, I must REALLY be missing something here....I'm usually much better informed on these things than this.

The first post in the public judge's list is Kevin's battle step chart....THAT I've seen. I haven't, however, seen ANY essay on priority in the judge's list nor have I seen it in the L3 judge's list, nor have I heard it discussed among any of the judges L1-L3.

Could someone please give me a link to this "priority essay" of which you speak?

If there was I should have it in my inbox, but there isn't.
 
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