Prisma v Gladiator Beast fusions

[cardmaster]

hi guys i wonder if you could help me clear this rule up can you use prisma to copy a gladiator beast fusion where it says "1 gladiator beast monster"

the help will be most great

card master

 

[arkboy]

The short answer is no, prisma states that you reveal 1 fusion monster and send one card listed on that card to the grave. Prisma then gains that monster's name and effect.

However, there is no gladiator beast called 'one gladiator beast monster' for prisma's effect to target.

So it has to be one that is specificaly named i.e. bestiari or laquari for gazyrus or heraklinos

 

[cardmaster]

thnx for that and that applys to all card that have the same wording a prisma

 

[Digital Jedi]

thnx for that and that applys to all card that have the same wording a prisma

And all Fusions that don't specify the name of the monster on the card.

Also, Prisma doesn't copy effects. (Unless there's some lost UDE ruling that I missed).

 

[arkboy]

And all Fusions that don't specify the name of the monster on the card.

Also, Prisma doesn't copy effects. (Unless there's some lost UDE ruling that I missed).

Whoops, you're right :S my bad, in fairness i'd only been up 10 minutes lmao.

 

[DarkLogicianOfCaos]

Confussion with Phantom of Chaos, maybe?

 

[arkboy]

Confussion with Phantom of Chaos, maybe?

Haha, I was looking through my glads and getting mixed up with neo spacian dark panther I think >< nevermind.

 

[Digital Jedi]

That's why I sustain a 24 hour espresso drip.

 

[Barty64]

to much blood in the coffee stream eh???

 

[SynjoDeonecros]

I think a deeper explanation of Prisma's effect and non-specified Fusion Material Monsters is in order to clear this up.

First of all, the above people are correct when they say you cannot send 1 random GB monster to the grave for Prisma's effect; Prisma needs a specific monster to copy the name of, and if the Fusion Material Monster is unspecified (ie, the Fusion Monster saying it needs "1 Gladiator Beast monster" instead of needing "Gladiator Beast Samnite" or something), then it has no name to copy. It's similar to the reason why you can't use a Fusion Substitute to copy the unspecified Warrior-Type monster for UFOroid Fighter, or to summon Ojama Knight or that one Gemini Monster Fusion; they don't specify a specific, named monster, so the Fusion Substitute can't adequately replace it, since it doesn't know what monster it's supposed to replace.

That being said, you CAN copy the name of a specified Fusion Material Monster with Prisma, then use it as one of the non-specified Fusion Materials, as its name is now that of a specified Gladiator Beast (for example, you can use Prisma to copy Laquari's name, then summon out Bestiarii, and bring out Gyzarus, using Prisma as the unspecified GB Fusion Material, since its name is now that of a specified GB monster, and thus can fit in as the "1 Gladiator Beast").

So, to clear things up, if you use Prisma's effect, you MUST use it to copy a specifically-named Fusion Material Monster, since it's the only monster that has a name for Prisma to copy, but AFTER it copies that name, you CAN use it as one of the non-specified Fusion Material Monsters, since it now has a specified monster name that fits the requirements for being an unspecified Fusion Material.