Reflect Bounder and Ancient Lamp

[Tkwiget]

P1 has a face up Attack Positioned Reflect Bounder and Jinzo on the field. P2 has a face down Defense Positioned Ancient Lamp on the field.

P1 declares his attack with Jinzo. P2's Ancient Lamp is flipped face up and activates. The attack is redirected to Reflect Bounder.

What I'm unsure of is if Reflect Bounder will activate and inflict Effect Damage and then Damage Calculations are applied.

According to the Battle Phase chart, Reflect Bounder's Trigger Effect that inflicts damage is activated in the Sub-Step 2 of the Damage Step.

I'm just going out on a limb here to say the Effect Damage won't be applied because Reflect Bounder must be the attack target first. Just need some clarification on this.

 

[ygo doc]

Reflect Bounder will not inflict any effect damage as it is NOT being attacked by a monster on the opponent's side of the Field.

doc

 

[Tkwiget]

OMG, I missed that little part. t_t Thanks Doc! =)

 

[Tkwiget]

P1 has P2's face up Attack Positioned [url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.17661#"]Reflect Bounder[/url] and [url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.17661#"][url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.17661#"]Jinzo (Jinzo is originally P1's)[/url][/url] on the field. P2 has a face down Defense Positioned Ancient Lamp on the field.

P1 declares his attack with [url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.17661#"][url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.17661#"]Jinzo[/url][/url]. P2's Ancient Lamp is flipped face up and activates. The attack is redirected to [url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.17661#"]Reflect Bounder[/url].Would Reflect Bounder activate? =/

 

[masterwoo0]

P1 has P2's face up Attack Positioned [url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.17661#"]Reflect Bounder[/url] and [url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.17661#"][url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.17661#"]Jinzo (Jinzo is originally P1's)[/url][/url] on the field. P2 has a face down Defense Positioned Ancient Lamp on the field.

P1 declares his attack with [url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.17661#"][url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.17661#"]Jinzo[/url][/url]. P2's Ancient Lamp is flipped face up and activates. The attack is redirected to [url="http://www.cogonline.net/threads.17661#"]Reflect Bounder[/url].Would Reflect Bounder activate? =/

I dont think there is much of a change here. You are still attacking your monster with a card you control, even if you are not the original controller.

 

[Tkwiget]

Was just making sure. I came up with a blank on the answer.

 

[masterwoo0]

There's just no way to trigger his effect using Ancient Lamp, and for that matter, the same applies when the monster is D.D. Assailant (and similar effects).

 

[skey23]

Change "Ancient Lamp" to "Dreamsprite".....

 

[ygo doc]

Unfortunately, Dreamsprite can't redirect attack to opponent's monster...

doc

 

[skey23]

That wasn't the point of my post. He was attempting to trigger the effect of "Reflect Bounder" w/o the opponent directly attacking the "Reflect Bounder". Yes, I'm aware "Dreamsprite" works differently than "Ancient Lamp". Yes, I'm aware it still won't work because "Dreamsprite" forces the attack directly into Damage Calculation. Again, that wasn't my point. TKWiget is on a learning 'journey'. I was attempting to get a response from him about my suggestion, not a 'correction' from anybody else.

 

[novastar]

To add info...

All three triggers activate within the same activation window.

Once Ancient Lamp's effect resolves, we move on past that window...