Replay Rules - Ultimate Offering

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As in the rule book and on the upperdeck site:

Example: During your Battle Step, you have declared an attacking monster and designated an opponent's monster as a target. Your opponent then activates their "Ultimate Offering" Trap Card, allowing them to summon another monster to the field. Since your opponent now has a different number of monsters on the field than they did when the Battle Step began, a Replay is triggered and you may again choose a monster to attack and designate a target for the attack. Because a Replay returns play to the beginning of the current Battle Step only, monsters destroyed in previous Battle Steps are unaffected.

My question is on the Ultimate Offering card... this example doesn't seem to make sense...

You can pay life points to get an "extra" normal summon or set, but I'm fairly sure you can't normal summon in the middle of the battle phase, or on your opponent's turn.

Also the way the card is worded, it suggests you can only get one extra summon, or can you pay multiple installations to get several more summons

Ultimate Offering; Continuous Trap
At the cost of 500 Life Points per monster, a player is allowed an extra Normal Summon or Set.
 
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The possibility of using it in your opponent's battle phase has been applied for a long time.

"The current ruling, and has been this way for some time now, is that
the effect of "Ultimate Offering" can only be activated during your Main
Phase 1 and Main Phase 2 and during your Opponent's Battle Phase.

That's it."
- From the judge list

Well. We know that the rulings have ultimately changed a lot, so I'm not pretty sure if the ruling has been taken down. Confirmation would be very appreciated. Thanks.
 
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im just wondering, when i started the game we where under the impression ultimate offerings counted for both players. did they errata or change that somewhere along the way? or where we just being noobs?

on the actual question:
you can extra summon during opponents battlephase, thats the way its been since last time i checked on it, though the rulings on the card are nolonger displayed i think its safe to assume you can still use it that way due to the example text and the fact there are no new rulings stated<if there are any>
 
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The rules have not changed for a long time.

- The card itself can be activated and put into play at any time.
- The effect of Ultimate Offering can only be used by the "controller" of the card.
- The effect of Ultimate Offering can only be used in your Main Phase, and the Opponent's Battle Phase (outside of the Damage Step). No other time

A monster summoned by UO during the opponent's Battle Phase, will trigger replay.

Additonally, the special rules were put in place to avoid a one-turn-kill type of situation. If you could use it during your Battle Phase it would be possible to one-turn-kill very easily.

Hope that helps
 
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paladinforce said:
Can I use ultimate offering for extra summon a tribute summon monster

Ultimate Offering; Continuous Trap
At the cost of 500 Life Points per monster, a player is allowed an extra Normal Summon or Set.
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Tribute summons are considered Normal Summons. And if you tribute and set it, its considered a Set. Now the card allows you an extra Summon/Set as long as you can pay and have adequate monsters. So in short yes, you can use it for tribute summons.
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just to add...

When you Tribute Summon a (6 or 5 Star) monster (with UO) when the opponent declares an attack, you will infact trigger a replay as well.

Even though in the end, it will appear that the number of monsters is the same, during the process of the Tribute Summon the number changed in a 1-0-1 fashion.
 
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novastar said:
just to add...

When you Tribute Summon a (6 or 5 Star) monster (with UO) when the opponent declares an attack, you will infact trigger a replay as well.

Even though in the end, it will apprear that the number of monsters is the same, during the process of the Tribute Summon the number changed in a 1-0-1 fashion.
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Thats good to know since this came up in my last game and we could't find any rulings on what would occur. We ended up saying that no replay occured (Number of mosters when attack declared = number of mosters when attack resolves) but attack doesn't go through due to target no longer on field. I will have to inform the players of how we should have done it (although the end result would have been the same)
 
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Question:

If I normal summon and I have ultimate offering face up on the field can I tribute summon.


best case scenario:

I normal summon I have two monsters on the field I dont want to tribute one I have ultimate offering face up, I then pay five hundred for an additional normal summon or set tribute two for dark magician of chaos. Recieve a magic card, and continue...

-Javario
 
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Yes, thats perfectly fine.

The Tribute Summon of DMoC would still be considered a Normal Summon through the effect of Ultimate Offering.

Remember though, DMoC's effect is optional, so as long as the last event to take place in the chain was the summon of DMoC, you will get the effect (return a Spell to your hand).

Hope that helps
 
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If a replay does occur, the turn player gets to pick his attack targets again, does he also get the choice of not attacking with the monster in question? Can he for instance, test the water with a weak monster, end up causing a replay, then decide to use his stronger monster on the field to attack instead, and then say have the weak monster attack later, say the LP directly if they become open?
 
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J-Kama-Ka-C said:
If a replay does occur, the turn player gets to pick his attack targets again, does he also get the choice of not attacking with the monster in question? Can he for instance, test the water with a weak monster, end up causing a replay, then decide to use his stronger monster on the field to attack instead, and then say have the weak monster attack later, say the LP directly if they become open?
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Yes, when a Replay occurs, you basically roll the attack back (of course after any outstanding effects resolve).

You can opt not to attack at all, or declare another attack with any monster that you can legally attack with.
 
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magic-snake said:
im just wondering, when i started the game we where under the impression ultimate offerings counted for both players. did they errata or change that somewhere along the way? or where we just being noobs?

on the actual question:
you can extra summon during opponents battlephase, thats the way its been since last time i checked on it, though the rulings on the card are nolonger displayed i think its safe to assume you can still use it that way due to the example text and the fact there are no new rulings stated<if there are any>
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:boxing: I'm agree my view point it's a trap card I can use anywhen after you daw and reply happend :argh: :lurk: :palmer:I repeat that's my view point :palmer:
 
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