Reversal Quiz

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John Danker

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One of our more imaginative deck builders asked me a question about Reversal Quiz the other day....and I can't seem to find an answer to what SHOULD already be defined.

Reversal Quiz

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Send all cards in your hand and on your side of the field to the Graveyard. Call the type of card (Spell, Trap, or Monster) on top of your Deck. If you call it right, exchange your current Life Points with your opponent's current ones.

What do you do with the card you guessed and picked up off the top of your deck? Is it sent to the graveyard? Is it added to the hand? Is it placed back on top of the deck? Is it placed back into the deck and the deck shuffled?
 
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John Danker said:
One of our more imaginative deck builders asked me a question about Reversal Quiz the other day....and I can't seem to find an answer to what SHOULD already be defined.

Reversal Quiz

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Send all cards in your hand and on your side of the field to the Graveyard. Call the type of card (Spell, Trap, or Monster) on top of your Deck. If you call it right, exchange your current Life Points with your opponent's current ones.

What do you do with the card you guessed and picked up off the top of your deck? Is it sent to the graveyard? Is it added to the hand? Is it placed back on top of the deck? Is it placed back into the deck and the deck shuffled?
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I would think the effect is considered as a "Draw" or drawing of card(s) and the card would go to the player's hand. Obviously, if the player calls it right, the effect resolves and the lifepoints are switched but the card should go to the hand.

Question I would have is- how would this work with a Dark World deck? Is the effect of the card considered a cost?
 
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Reversal Quiz says "send" and not "discard." No Dark World effects can come of it.

I've always thought the card was returned to the top of the deck. The owner just picks it up and looks at it.
 
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Most of the effects that have you perform some type of "call" also tell you what the end result of the effect will be, and in this instance, since it doesnt indicate that the card is picked up or drawn, I would assume that since both players are aware of the card's type, it will just be placed back face-down (or up, in the case of Convulsion of Nature) to the original position it was in the Deck.
 
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Of course, even with Convultion of Nature, since it is sent to the Graveyard by Reversal Quiz, the deck would revert to its face down position so it would still be returned to the top of the deck from whence it was drawn. Yes, I've played two different types of Reversal Quiz Decks and I always put it back, since it didn't say to draw, just to look at it.
 
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DarkLogicianOfCaos said:
Of course, even with Convultion of Nature, since it is sent to the Graveyard by Reversal Quiz, the deck would revert to its face down position so it would still be returned to the top of the deck from whence it was drawn. Yes, I've played two different types of Reversal Quiz Decks and I always put it back, since it didn't say to draw, just to look at it.
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Well, since the effect doesnt resolve until "after" you have called the card correctly, it shouldnt send the cards until after it has been placed back on the top of the Deck. You are only looking at the card, not holding it in your hand throughout the resolution of the effect.
 
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Ok, a couple of things here...
I'm not sure if I'm misreading a few people's posts, or what, but...

Sending the cards for "Reversal Quiz" is a cost, it doesn't happen when the card resolves.

As soon as "Convulsion of Nature" leaves the field, the Deck will immediately be flipped back over BEFORE you look at the top card of your deck. There is no way you could look at the top card of your deck, which was the bottom, and then put it back on the top.
 
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Slight order issue, but I was mainly talking about the resolution of Reversal Quiz and the life points, so really, the order, although backwards, still occurs before Reversal Quiz resolves, which would also include Convulsion of Nature flipping the Deck right-sde up.

Also, we are assuming that the player who controls Convulsion of Nature IS in fact the player using Reversal Quiz..... ;)
 
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masterwoo0 said:
Slight order issue, but I was mainly talking about the resolution of Reversal Quiz and the life points, so really, the order, although backwards, still occurs before Reversal Quiz resolves, which would also include Convulsion of Nature flipping the Deck right-sde up.

Also, we are assuming that the player who controls Convulsion of Nature IS in fact the player using Reversal Quiz..... ;)
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Except that Convulsion of Nature is a continuous effect that does not use the chain, therefore, as soon as it is removed at the activation of Reversal Quiz, and before it resolves (and the card is looked at), Convultion of Nature's effect dissappears and the deck gets turn right way up. Nevertheless, this is a little off topic. Suffice it to say that the card you look at is returned to from whence it came.
 
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DarkLogicianOfCaos said:
Except that Convulsion of Nature is a continuous effect that does not use the chain, therefore, as soon as it is removed at the activation of Reversal Quiz, and before it resolves (and the card is looked at), Convultion of Nature's effect dissappears and the deck gets turn right way up. Nevertheless, this is a little off topic. Suffice it to say that the card you look at is returned to from whence it came.
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Again, this is "assuming" that the one player controls both cards, which in case it is not off topic when we are still considering the possibility of that card that is looked at and where it goes once it has been looked at.

I never gave any indication that either player controlled Convulsion of Nature as well as Reversal Quiz. It just naturally took on a life of its own that most people use it as the combo card. I was only stating that once the card is looked at, it would be placed back on top of the Deck, and if the same player controlled both cards, then removing Convulsion would flip the Deck after the cost is paid, so the bottom becomes the top again, and the "top" card is still the one that gets looked at anyway.
 
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Shuffle it back? Odd thing to say. I would have said to put it back on the top of the Deck, as would others above me. There's nothing to suggest the card would be shuffled instead of replaced; whereas replacement is implied (since you're only checking the card there, not picking it up/drawing it/etc.).
 
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I could make a Reversal Quiz deck on the Spirit Caller DS game and see what it does with the card. ;) (Haha, yes, I know, bad me, bad me, video games are a bad source of rulings, blah blah. It's a joke!)

Edit: The game does indeed shuffle the card back into the deck. Take that as you will.

Seriously though, I got beat by someone over Wi-Fi yesterday who flipped up Wall of Revealing Light on me, then flipped Cat of Ill Omen, and then played Reversal Quiz. I never saw it coming, and I was just staring at my DS screen and clapping my hands.
 
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Yeah, it also seems odd to me.

I'm guessing that it's like searching through your deck (i.e. Sangan). Where's the official rule about that? Not the text of Sangan, but the rule that you have to shuffle your deck after looking through it. I'm pretty sure that it's mentioned in a rulebook, or something.

Plus, it doesn't say that you return it to the top of the deck, like Pigeonholing Book of Spells, Ancient Telescope, or Maharagi. Hypothetically, if it didn't say to put it back, you should shuffle the deck.
 
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