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When you tribute summon for a Blowback Dragon and the opponet chains a Ring of Destruction, would you get priority with the Blowback or not?

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Yes. You are able to activate Blowback's effect when he hits the field and yes your opponent can chain Ring of Destruction to it. So the resolution would have Blowback destroyed, and then the 3 coins tossed to resolve Blowback's effect.

- Andrew
 
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Thought so, had one of my players call me from the Ia. Regionals and complain. Said the HJ said BD did not get priority when ROD was used. Told him to ask for a hard copy or just let it be, as it's the HJ's call. Thanks for confirming this for me.


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Just remember 2 small facets about priority in regards to this:

1) Monsters don't have priority... the player does.
2) The turn player has the right to activate the effect of a monster he summoned successfully* (assuming it is not an automatic effect like Breaker receiving a counter or Mobius destroying up to 2 S/T cards) before his/her opponent can respond.
2a) *And by "summoned successfully" we mean that the summon was not negated by "Horn of Heaven" or "Solemn Judgment"

- Andrew
 
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That's what I told him. If he had just Tributed and hadn't said anything, but was going to respond and activate the effect, ROD would not stop him. He said he was, but the HJ said it wasn't proper. SO......I will go with the HJ, as I wasn't there to see what happened. But, if it was wrong, I will notify this player next week at local tourny and make sure he performs the steps properly so he doesn't miss it the next time.

Again, thanx for the help.

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I think the summoning priority of some monsters are legal because the monsters have a cost effect. Blowback has no cost at all on activate it's effect, therefore, i think it shouldn't get his effect resolved, not even activated. By the way, Black luster soldier- Envoy of the beginning shouldn't have priority neither because his cost it's a joke, not attacking because he have removed a monster, gimme a break.
 
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thats wrong
not only monsters with cost effects have priority.
no monster has priority
as already said above, the player has priority. so its a legal move to activate blowbacks effect before your opponent is able to activate anythink.

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I was there and this is what happened...

Player As turn

Player A: summons Blowback Dragon and doesnt use its effect upon the summoning
Player B: responds to the summon by activating Ring of Destruction on Blowback Dragon
Player A: chains ring of destruction with blowback dragons effect
Player B: calls judge...and a big argument arises for almost 10 minutes...
 
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Okay, did Player A say anything? Did Player B ask if he was activating the effect before activating Ring? Obviously with a card like Blowback Dragon there is no possible reason not to activate the effect upon summoning. It is common sense that something would be targeted by the effect since he usually isn't played just for his phenomenal beatdown ability. Player B should have asked before thinking he could just Ring and be done with it. I'll renew my suggestion that a physical token of some sort being passed from Player to Player to signify you are passing on your right to activate anything else and allowing your opponent to respond would solve this kind of problem.

Also if there is any possibility we could send up a united plea for the "Priority" essay so we can get a clearer definition of what can and can't be activated when, I'd really appreciate knowing.
 
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DarkSpider said:
thats wrong
not only monsters with cost effects have priority.
no monster has priority
as already said above, the player has priority. so its a legal move to activate blowbacks effect before your opponent is able to activate anythink.

Well, i guess you're right. But i disagree about the rule that the player is who gets the priority.So that means if my opponont summon "relinquished" and I ring, my opponent can swallow one of my monsters with it?
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Well, i guess you're right. But i disagree about the rule that the player is who gets the priority.So that means if my opponont summon "relinquished" and I ring, my opponent can swallow one of my monsters with it?
 
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Technically the player wouldn't have to say "I'm using the effect." They could ask if the opponent wishes to respond, which would be the smart thing to do, since if your opponent responds, you can use your turn priority to use the effect.

If it's the other way around, say you activate his effect one would imagine you could chain the spell speed 2 trap of Ring of Destruction to the spell speed 1 effect of Blowback Dragon and then the chain would occur like so.

Ring resolves destroying Blowback Dragon.
Blowback Dragon doesn't resolve because it's no longer on the field.

My brain is a bit scrambled lately, but it makes sense to me.

As far as this goes, the answer is yes, you can use the priority you have to activate Blowback's effect in chain to Ring becuase Blowback's effect is simply target a card, flip a coin 3 times, if you get 2/3 heads, destroy that card, simple as that.

Unlike Breaker who people misunderstand which has technically two effects which read "Place a counter" after the summon then removing it. The only priority you would have after summoning Breaker would be to place the counter, not remove it. By the time the opportunity came around to remove Breakers counter, he's already off the board.
 
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paladinforce said:
Well, i guess you're right. But i disagree about the rule that the player is who gets the priority.So that means if my opponont summon "relinquished" and I ring, my opponent can swallow one of my monsters with it?
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Not exactly. Your opponent has the right to activate "Relinquished"'s effect, to which you can chain "Ring of Destuction" to destroy "Relinquished". Since "Ring" resolves first, RQ's effect then disappears since he must be on the field at time of activation and resolution.

- Andrew
 
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helpoemer316 said:
Technically the player wouldn't have to say "I'm using the effect." They could ask if the opponent wishes to respond, which would be the smart thing to do, since if your opponent responds, you can use your turn priority to use the effect.

If it's the other way around, say you activate his effect one would imagine you could chain the spell speed 2 trap of Ring of Destruction to the spell speed 1 effect of Blowback Dragon and then the chain would occur like so.

Ring resolves destroying Blowback Dragon.
Blowback Dragon doesn't resolve because it's no longer on the field.

My brain is a bit scrambled lately, but it makes sense to me.

As far as this goes, the answer is yes, you can use the priority you have to activate Blowback's effect in chain to Ring becuase Blowback's effect is simply target a card, flip a coin 3 times, if you get 2/3 heads, destroy that card, simple as that.
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You do mean above there that "Blowback Dragon" would resolve even though it isn't on the field since he doesn't have to be on the field for the effect to resolve...

*offers some Tylenol*

- Andrew
 
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With both "Relinquished" and "Blowback Dragon" you can activate their effects when they are summoned successfully to the field. If your opponent decides to chain "Ring of Destruction" to their effects, "Ring" resolves first and destroys the monster. Now in BB Dragon's case, he doesn't need to be on the field to have his effect resolve so flip the coins and gook luck getting heads. In RQ's case, he does need to be on the field so his effect just fades away.

- Andrew
 
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