Shallow grave q.

[Melchiah76]

it's been a while since i wrote a question...

1.- i know that for shallow grave to activate, there must be at least 1 monster in each of our graveyards. the question here is that if for some reason,i have a monster in my graveyard, and my oponente has a nomi monster or, if, has all of his/her monsters zones full...can i still activate the shallow grave?

2.- i was looking at the rulinf for TER, when i came to the part of him not beign able to control a face up BLG...but it didn't say anything about a matazza...does TER effect consired not-controlling?...i mean, cant control monsters that cant be controlled?

 

[NLFW]

1)no...both players MUST be able to summon a monster...
2)TER cannot suck a Mataza the Zapper...

 

[skey23]

For "The Shallow Grave":
You cannot activate "The Shallow Grave" when there are no available monster slots on either player's side of the field.

You cannot activate "The Shallow Grave" when the only monster in either player's Graveyard cannot be Special Summoned from the Graveyard.


For "Thousand-Eyes Restrict":
You cannot 'suck up' or 'absorb' a monster with "TER"s effect that cannot have it's control switched like "Blindly Loyal Goblin" or "Mataza the Zapper".

Hope this helps!

 

[BenjaminMS]

it's been a while since i wrote a question...

1.- i know that for shallow grave to activate, there must be at least 1 monster in each of our graveyards. the question here is that if for some reason,i have a monster in my graveyard, and my oponente has a nomi monster or, if, has all of his/her monsters zones full...can i still activate The Shallow Grave?

2.- i was looking at the rulinf for TER, when i came to the part of him not beign able to control a face up BLG...but it didn't say anything about a matazza...does TER effect consired not-controlling?...i mean, cant control monsters that cant be controlled?

I am sorry, the answer on both questions is NO. The Shallow Grave requires not only monsters in the Graveyard, but also room on the field. And that is a bit of a problem then...

TER takes control of a monster and turns it into an Equip (Spell) card. Thusfore, the control has been changed, and that prevents Mataza the Zapper from being sucked.

<EDIT:> Skey strikes again *mutter* *grumble*

 

[Melchiah76]

shoots....gotta know the restrictions first...thanks to all of u people!!

 

[Tiso]

What bothers me is that there used to be a ruling that clearly showed how The Shallow Grave can work and now it is no longer there. Then on top of that, it has similar text to some other cards that can do something like that, even if your opponent does not have a card to get. Just confusing.

 

[Dillie-O]

Yeah, a few sneak peeks back I was juding a constructed 4 man and this kid was swearing up and down he could use Shallow Grave when his opponent had no monsters in the graveyard. He says no, he has this friend who has one a bunch of regionals that says you can. The whole "I'm the judge" type thing was lost on him. It was a good thing he actually didn't try to make that move during the constructed, or he wasn't going to be too happy with me 8^D

I know some of the old Netrep files cleared these things up, but never made it over to the UDE FAQ. Anybody know if there was a reason why that migration never took place?

 

[masterwoo0]

Possibly because UDE and Netrep arent the same entity....

 

[Tiso]

Before, I used to think that because they never migrated over meant they changed the ruling on it and you could do it. However, none of the future video games were able to do this so I assumed it was just something that did not happen. However, it still bothers me to this day that a card like The Shallow Grave cannot activate unless both players can get a monster, but a card that does something similar and needs both players can easily do it with just 1 player getting the effect. So backwards.