Six Samurai

[pmhcooz]

Let's say for example i have grandmaster of six samurai and Irou on the field in face up attack. my opponent has a face down spirit reaper on his field with two cards on his trap/magic zones. i attack with irou; he activates sakuretsu.

My questions are:

1) If i use irou's "...would be destroyed..." effect and let my grandmaster die, will irou's attack go through?

2) Now that Grandmaster died [from opp's sakuretsu effect], will i be able to use grandmaster's effect to bring back a 6-samurai from the graveyard?

3) If the 2 conditions above are true, then what happened to my opp's sakuretsu effect?

Could someone please clue me in on these?

 

[EmeraldDragon]

Okay.....

Yes irou can kill GM instead and since sak doesnt negate the ettack it goes through.

GM can bring back a monster including himself. It would be used in the resolve effects portion of the damage step so after the attack is done basicly.

The effect resolved normally just the wrong monster died due to irous substitution effect.

 

[masterwoo0]

1. Since Irou is basically sacrificing Grandmaster in place of his own demise, the attack still goes through, as he is still on the field, Sakuretsu Armor does not negate the attack.

2. The choice is yours. You can bring back Grandmaster, since his effect activates in the Graveyard, and he himself is a "Six Samurai", or you can choose any of the other Six Samurai's that may be in your Graveyard already.

3. The same thing that would have happened to it if it had normally destroyed Irou. It goes to the Graveyard at the end of the Chain. Remember, Sakuretsu Armor did NOT destroy Grandmaster. He was destroyed by Irou's effect. Sakuretsu Armor resolves without effect, since its original target was not destroyed.

 

[DH2K4]

Erm...

Grandmaster couldn't be returned (nor another Samurai) cause he was destroyed by Irou using the Six Samurai's redirection effect. So Grandmaster wasn't destroyed by an opponent's card effect.

Unless something changed without me knowing

 

[Cropz]

Erm...

Grandmaster couldn't be returned (nor another Samurai) cause he was destroyed by Irou using the Six Samurai's redirection effect. So Grandmaster wasn't destroyed by an opponent's card effect.

Unless something changed without me knowing

You're very right.

'Grandmaster of the Six Samurai' wasn't destroyed by an opponent's effect in this case, so his effect won't activate.

 

[Jathro]

Isn't that what masterwoo0 said? *scratches head*

 

[pmhcooz]

thanks players

 

[Oceanus]

Would Irou's effect disappear?

 

[skey23]

Yes, if the only two monsters were "Irou" and the "Grandmaster" in the given situaion, then the effect of "Irou" would disappear as soon as the "Grandmaster" left the field.