skill drain, when i can and i can't
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Skill Drain has the same activation timing as any other continuous trap. It can be used at any time other than during the Damage Step, or during the turn it was set, or in response to a Spell Speed three card.
Note that, unlike Ultimate Offering, it does not have an ignition effect that must be manually activated after the card resolves. Instead, it has a continuous effect which becomes active upon resolution. Meaning, of course, that if Skill Drain is chained to a monster effect, Skill Drain will resolve first and negate that effect (provided the monster is subject to Skill Drain - it wouldn't be effective if chained to a Witch of the Black Forest).
Barring that, I don't know what else to say. Is there a particular situation you were confused about?
Note that, unlike Ultimate Offering, it does not have an ignition effect that must be manually activated after the card resolves. Instead, it has a continuous effect which becomes active upon resolution. Meaning, of course, that if Skill Drain is chained to a monster effect, Skill Drain will resolve first and negate that effect (provided the monster is subject to Skill Drain - it wouldn't be effective if chained to a Witch of the Black Forest).
Barring that, I don't know what else to say. Is there a particular situation you were confused about?
First example with D.D. Warrior Lady: Nope, because that would be during the Damage Step. *BUT* If skill drain were already active on the field, its effect would apply then.
Second example: Again, that would be the Damage Step so you couldn't activate Skill Drain. But again, if it were already face-up and active, it would have its effect.
Second example: Again, that would be the Damage Step so you couldn't activate Skill Drain. But again, if it were already face-up and active, it would have its effect.
hi i play skill drain deck too and i'm sure that i can flip a setted skill drain when my opponent declare an attack to my 1400 fusilier (that goes to 2800)because that is battle step and not damage step that is only the damage calculation after the attack so i can flip my skill drain when after my attack my opponent's face down monster is flipped face up; but i'm only a player so any judge's opinion are welcome
Ryshin, you're correct in that, IF it is used during the Battle Step. But keep in mind the Battle Step is "breif", if you will. The Battle Step has only two "default" opportunities for chaining. I know many will disagree with me on this, but here's how it goes:
Beginning of Battle Step - TP gets priority (Assume both players pass)
OP (Opponent) declares an attack on Fusilier. - TP gets priority.
If TP passes, OP gets priority. If OP passes, we move on to Damage Step.
If TP does not pass, this would be where to activate Skill Drain. Note that if you do this, you forfeit your present opportunity to play any other card in response to the attack. Priority passes to the opponent.
If OP passes, TP regains priority and can now activate any other card in response to the attack. Same thing if OP activates a Spell Speed two effect in chain. *BUT*, if OP activates a spell speed three effect in chain, the opportunity to activate cards such as Mirror Force is now gone. There will be a response chain after the resolution of this chain, but by then it will be too late to respond to the attack.
Beginning of Battle Step - TP gets priority (Assume both players pass)
OP (Opponent) declares an attack on Fusilier. - TP gets priority.
If TP passes, OP gets priority. If OP passes, we move on to Damage Step.
If TP does not pass, this would be where to activate Skill Drain. Note that if you do this, you forfeit your present opportunity to play any other card in response to the attack. Priority passes to the opponent.
If OP passes, TP regains priority and can now activate any other card in response to the attack. Same thing if OP activates a Spell Speed two effect in chain. *BUT*, if OP activates a spell speed three effect in chain, the opportunity to activate cards such as Mirror Force is now gone. There will be a response chain after the resolution of this chain, but by then it will be too late to respond to the attack.
masterwoo0
NINJA4LIFE
You can attack D.D. Warrior Lady AND activate Skill Drain in the Battle Step. You activate it during the "Attack Response" before (a face-down) D.D. Warrior Lady gets flipped face-up. So, either you better have a good idea that it IS D.D. Warrior Lady, or, you just dont want to take a chance.
Once you flip Lady face-up, its in the Damage Step, and too late. If its already face-up, then again, it's activated in the "Response Window".
Once you flip Lady face-up, its in the Damage Step, and too late. If its already face-up, then again, it's activated in the "Response Window".
nkarunatilaka
The Syndicate...
Player A tribute summons for Mobius the Frost Monarch.
Can Player B respond with Skill Drain when Player A targets the s/t card(s), or must it be activated in response to the summon before he/she selects his/her targets? Ie, will Player B miss their timing if activated after the targets are selected.
Same goes for Zaborg etc,.
Second Scenario, Player A flip summons a flip-effect monster, can Player B respond with Skill Drain to negate the flip effect.
I just need clarification. Thanks.
Can Player B respond with Skill Drain when Player A targets the s/t card(s), or must it be activated in response to the summon before he/she selects his/her targets? Ie, will Player B miss their timing if activated after the targets are selected.
Same goes for Zaborg etc,.
Second Scenario, Player A flip summons a flip-effect monster, can Player B respond with Skill Drain to negate the flip effect.
I just need clarification. Thanks.
Depends on a few things. For one thing, the effect activates upon a successful summon, so there's no way to activate anything else before targets are selected, since it's all part of Mobius' activation. Mobius' own effect begins a chain that is in response to his summon. SO anything on that chain would be in the "summon response window" by default.
If Skill Drain is not one of the targeted cards, then chaining it will result in Skill Drain resolving before Mobius' effect does. If Mobius is still face-up on the field when his effect goes to resolve, then an activate Skill Drain will negate it.
If Skill Drain is not one of the targeted cards, then chaining it will result in Skill Drain resolving before Mobius' effect does. If Mobius is still face-up on the field when his effect goes to resolve, then an activate Skill Drain will negate it.
HorusMaster
New Member
skey23 said:
And the claws come out...lol...
Also, the same would be for Zaborg's effect. Regardless of what card is targetted, Skill Drain would activate, then resolve before Zaborg's effect resolves in the chain- provided there isn't another link either before or after Skill Drain that would negate the effect of Skill Drain. If Skill Drain were negated in the chain, then both Mobius and Zaborg's effect would resolve.
Alright, who want's some? :jediskey23 said:Um...it wouldn't matter if is was one of the targeted cards or not. It would still resolve before "Mobius"s effect....lol.
c'mon DJ!