Snatch Stealed D. D. Survivor's effect

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Based on the rulings it would either return to the owners side of the field or return to the previous controller's side first and then immediatly return to the owner. Either way, the end result is the same.
 
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AH, you know what, I take that back after reading the effect of D. D. Survivor more carefully. "...Special Summoned to the owner's side of the field..."

It goes to the owner's side of the field no matter whos side it was on when removed from play.
 
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Are you sure about this?
The effect of D.D. Survivor also says that he must be removed on the same side as the RFG-Pile he goes through or am i wrong ??
"If this face-up card on your side of the field is removed from play,..."
(Monsters always go to the RFG-Pile of the owner i suggest!)

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However we have do not have seperate Removerd from Game area in this game. Nor are the really considered piles. There is nothing in D. D Survivors text to indicat who's side of the field he has to be on to activate his effect. Why would the side he's removed from have any bearing on that?
 
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However I might point out that "on your side of the field" is seldom a determing factor in effect text. This is why Soul Exchange will still let tribute an opponents monster for Cannon Soldier. Really, much of Yu-Gi-Oh!'s text is like that. Based on what I've seen so far, it's the second part of that effect that is of primary importance.
 
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pssvr said:
Doesn't "You" always refer to the card's controller?
-pssvr
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You are correct. In 'most' cases the YOU always refers to the controller. So if I control "D. D. Assailant", then whose side of the field is he on? That's right..my side. The card text simply states that when the card is face-up on 'your side' of the field, so technically, if face-up, it will always be on 'your side' of the field..lol. (I even think there is a ruling about that in the FAQ somewhere..lol)

Yes, I know it was answered on the Judge's List, but I thought I'd point this out as well.
 
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anthonyj said:
If this face-up card on your side of the field is removed from play, this card is Special Summoned to the owner's side of the field during the End Phase.
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The "your side of the field" is not even needed, and is frankly irrelevent.

The effect is actually saying "if this face-up card" and the "your" doesn't matter. It is "intended" for easy reading by the controlling player...god knows why Konami would think this...

What does matter is the fact that the effect specifically mentions that the owner recieves the the Special Summon.

D. D. Survivor can be removed from either players side of the field and the effect will Trigger.

Nothing is the rulings even suggests that it has to be under the owners control either. It all comes down to inconsistant YGO text.
 
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DonZaloog25 said:
So does it come back or doesn't it I am confused because on the web site(here) you say both that it does and that it doesn't
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D.D. Survivor is very specific when its effect activates. It must be on your side of the field under your control when it is removed from play, and it must return to your side of the field when it comes back from RFG.

If it is on your opponents side of the field when it is removed from play, that means that it was not on your side of the field and it will not come back.

The Game Mechanic has been updated to prevent his return.
 
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I would be extremely suprised if Konami actually meant the owner of the card when they used "owner" in the text; I don't think they are that hyper-technical nor did someone envision this event; so I agree with the "you" and "owner" interpreted as the controller. Now unless there is an official ruling that addresses the "you" and "owner" by UDE (kind of like a statute) then the everyday or common usage should apply (kind of like case law). The makers are well aware of Snatch Steal and its effect so if they wanted DD Survivor to go back to the original player's side of the field they could have easily just said so; and if they forgot to do so then it falls under the "too bad" category. Without that specific language it appears ambiguous, and this is proven by the different opinions on this thread, so we all just go back to common usage of the words. Of course the answer would be paragraph thick texts in the future, I already need a magnifying glass for the really long ones...this is starting to sound too much like my work...
 
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The Advocate said:
I would be extremely suprised if Konami actually meant the owner of the card when they used "owner" in the text; I don't think they are that hyper-technical nor did someone envision this event; so I agree with the "you" and "owner" interpreted as the controller. Now unless there is an official ruling that addresses the "you" and "owner" by UDE (kind of like a statute) then the everyday or common usage should apply (kind of like case law). The makers are well aware of Snatch Steal and its effect so if they wanted DD Survivor to go back to the original player's side of the field they could have easily just said so; and if they forgot to do so then it falls under the "too bad" category. Without that specific language it appears ambiguous, and this is proven by the different opinions on this thread, so we all just go back to common usage of the words. Of course the answer would be paragraph thick texts in the future, I already need a magnifying glass for the really long ones...this is starting to sound too much like my work...
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I could have sworn that I stated that they changed the Game Mechanic for D.D. Survivor.... Is it just me, or do people just assume I'm talking to myself???

Try reading this Ruling, and then take a few seconds to season up your foot.....
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D. D. Survivor
If your "D. D. Survivor" is on your opponent's side of the field when it is removed from play its effect will not be activated. This is because it is in your Removed Zone, but was not on "your side of the field" when it was removed from play.

If "Macro Cosmos" is active on the field and a face-down "D. D. Survivor" on your side of the field is destroyed by battle, its effect will not activate. "D. D. Survivor" needs to be face-up when it is selected as an attack target in order for its effect to activate. (Similar to "Poison Draw Frog".)

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Your monsters removed from play do not belong to your opponent. He cannot summon your Monsters from RFG just the same as you cannot summon his. Since D.D. Survivor was removed from play from your opponents side of the field, it will not return.

And just incase you need more to study up on, here's the link

http://lists.upperdeck.com/read/messages?id=10213#10213
 
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masterwoo0 said:
I could have sworn that I stated that they changed the Game Mechanic for D.D. Survivor.... Is it just me, or do people just assume I'm talking to myself???

Try reading this Ruling, and then take a few seconds to season up your foot.....
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I'd recommend a little salt, pepper and maybe a little oregano....
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