Solemn Judgment vs Ritual Summons

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In order to stop the Ritual Summons you need to negate the Ritual Card (don't you)?

And is Tributing those monster a cost?
 
Tiso said:
Glasses, that is not the point. Your entire argument fell flat because Share the Pain is not the same as Order to Smash and Order to Charge. Just because it Tributes a monster at resolution has no bearing on the issue. You have to Tribute a monster in order to activate it first of all. Do I need to "Tribute" the monsters when I activate a Ritual Spell Card or at resolution? Do I need to Tribute a monster when I activate those 2 cards above or at resolution?

Share the Pain should not even be included in this when it is not even the same as those 2 or Ritual Spell Cards.

What are you on about, the original query was from Digital Jedi saying "Let's point out for emphasis, that Rituals, as far as I know, are the only case of a Tribute not being a cost, but part of an effect resoltuion."

DaGuyWitBluGlasses was showing cards that do just that. Who said anything about costs, he didn't say Share the Pain was the same as the Order to...but it does fall in the parameters of what Digital Jedi was saying.
 
Tiso said:
Glasses, that is not the point. Your entire argument fell flat because Share the Pain is not the same as Order to Smash and Order to Charge.
Did you not read the post.

It does NOT matter taht it is not the same.

You are creating a straw man argument to say that it does.

Just because it Tributes a monster at resolution has no bearing on the issue. You have to Tribute a monster in order to activate it first of all. Do I need to "Tribute" the monsters when I activate a Ritual Spell Card or at resolution? Do I need to Tribute a monster when I activate those 2 cards above or at resolution?

Share the Pain should not even be included in this when it is not even the same as those 2 or Ritual Spell Cards.

Tributing is normally a word associated with a "cost"

Ritual spells, Share the Pain, Order to Smash, and Order to Charge are EXCEPTIONS to that rule.

They are all examples of cards that can Tribute a mosnter at resolution.

That IS the only point being made.

It doesn't matter that Share the pain also has a cost, because it is NOT costsbeing discussed,

Tributing at resolution IS the issue, and share the pain is an example of such.
 
DH2K4 said:
What are you on about, the original query was from Digital Jedi saying "Let's point out for emphasis, that Rituals, as far as I know, are the only case of a Tribute not being a cost, but part of an effect resoltuion."

DaGuyWitBluGlasses was showing cards that do just that. Who said anything about costs, he didn't say Share the Pain was the same as the Order to...but it does fall in the parameters of what Digital Jedi was saying.

First of all, you are making a generalization that Tributes has and will always be under any circumstance a COST. How is it a COST when you do not pay for it at activation? It is part of its effect. When a Ritual Spell resolves, you Tribute the monsters you selected for the Ritual Summon. Since when is that a COST?

That is like saying every instance of "Discard, Send, Destroy" should be classified as COST.
 
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