Solemn Wishes - Trigger or Continuos

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HI folks,
Here is a very simple question for you:
Is the effect of Solemn Wishes a trigger or a continuos effect? So will it resolve in a chain between the chainlinks or start a new chain after resolving the first one?
thx for any reply
greetz
Xe0
 
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HI folks,
Here is a very simple question for you:
Is the effect of Solemn Wishes a trigger or a continuos effect? So will it resolve in a chain between the chainlinks or start a new chain after resolving the first one?
thx for any reply
greetz
Xe0
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...the trigger effects are cards that activate its effects when you have fulfilled a specific requirement indicated on the card itself...

...and the continuos effects are cards that are face-up on the field, and its effect remains active...when the continuos card es removed form the field its effect disapears...

...also a continuos card has a icon in the card that represents its property...thats why "Solemn Wishes" its a continuos card effect...
 
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Lord Hades said:
...and the continuos effects are cards that are face-up on the field, and its effect remains active...when the continuos card es removed form the field its effect disapears...

...also a continuos card has a icon in the card that represents its property...thast why "solemn wishes" its a continuos card effect...
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There's a difference between Continuous Cards and Continuous effects.

Stumbling is a conitnuous spell card, but it has a Trigger Effect.
Level Limit Area B is a continuous spell card, with a similar effect to stumbling, but its a continuous effect.

The icon has nothing to do with it.
 
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Continuos ok ... so it is apllied between chainlinks also?
For example:
Player A got a Wave Motion Cannon that is on 5. He decides to use the effect by tributing it as cost. Player B, with a face up Solemn Wishes on his side of the field and 5000HP, chains Jar of Greed to the activation. Will he get the 500HP from Solemn Wishes immediatly after Jar of Greed resolves ? So will he survive?
If the effect is continuos like the effect of Spirit Reaper he will.
greetz
Xe0
 
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outside of actual rulings, what is the method for determining whether a card effect is continuous or trigger? I understand the difference in effects, but am not so clear on distinguishing.

Ex: I would never have thought Homunculus the Alchemic Being as a trigger effect (so I read).

Ex: Wave Motion Cannon is continuous in its counting of Standby Phases, but its cost for applying the damage would seem more of a triggered event.

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Or am I just not getting it (happens often with me)?
 
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-Xe0- said:
Thx for reply ?
Any other opinions ?
greetz
Xe0
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Sorry if I haven't proven enough evidence to my answer.

To help you understand, I'm going to use this example and what I mean.

PlayerA has Level Limit - Area B active
PlayerB has a face-down Call of The Haunted

PlayerA: activates Mystical Space Typhoon on PlayerB face-down S/T card
PlayerB: chains Call of the Haunted, designates Jinzo
Players do no respond
Resolve Steps
Step2: Call of the Haunted resolves, Jinzo is Special Summoned in attack mode
(Level Limit - Area B is activate and is a Continous Effect, so this would apply to Jinzo placing it in defense mode)
Step1: Call of the Haunted is destroyed by Mystical Space Typhoon

This is what my post means, the effect of Solemn WIshes applies even between chains links.
 
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It being a Continuous Trap proves nothing, solely that it is just that, Continuous. Some Continuous Traps have Trigger-like effects (Robbin' Goblin) even though they are Continuous Traps. Solemn Wishes, is a Continuous Trap with a Continuous effect that resoves in between chain links.

-chaosruler
 
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squid said:
outside of actual rulings, what is the method for determining whether a card effect is continuous or trigger? I understand the difference in effects, but am not so clear on distinguishing.

Ex: I would never have thought Homunculus the Alchemic Being as a trigger effect (so I read).

Ex: Wave Motion Cannon is continuous in its counting of Standby Phases, but its cost for applying the damage would seem more of a triggered event.

=/

Or am I just not getting it (happens often with me)?
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Homunculus is a manually activated spell speed 1 effect, AKA "Ignition". It is not a Trigger.
 
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Thx for all reply. I though it should be a trigger effect, cause its similar to the effect of Stumbling. So is see i was wrong. ^^
May you give me a rule how i can determine what is trigger and what is continuos? (in relation to continuos trap/spell cards)
greetz
Xe0
 
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-Xe0- said:
Thx for all reply. I though it should be a trigger effect, cause its similar to the effect of Stumbling. So is see i was wrong. ^^
May you give me a rule how i can determine what is trigger and what is continuos? (in relation to continuos trap/spell cards)
greetz
Xe0
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Well I don't think I can give you some form of "ruling" on explanation, but I can tell you how 1 is determined.

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Stumbling
As long as this card remains face-up on the field, any monster that is Normal Summoned, Flip Summoned or Special Summoned successfully is changed to Defense Position.

This card has a specific timing when this effect is applied, so it goes on a chain since this effect triggers to "any monster that is Normal Summoned, Flip, Summoned, Special Summoned successfully".

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Level Limit - Area B
All face-up Level 4 or higher monsters on the field are changed to Defense Position and remain in Defense Position as long as this card is active.

This card has no point when this effect "triggers" or "activates". It simply states "All face-up Levl 4 or higher monsters on the field are changed to Defense Position" it just gets "immediately applied".
 
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StRiKe_NiNjA said:
Yup, PlayerB gained 500 Life Points as Solemn Wishes is a Continuos Effect and can be applied "between chain links".
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This would be an excellent topic for a Netrep Article. Not a great many people understand this concept and it's possible implications. If people understand this it may change the way they construct some of their decks. Anyone up for the task of an article on the subject?
 
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I think part of the confusion comes from knowing which Continuous Cards are triggered effects and which are continous (basically, which uses the chain and which doesn't?). Other than being told so in the rulings, what makes "Stumbling" a trigger while "Solemn Wishes" continous? There really isn't any set way to figure this out.
 
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What I was referring to that could be a good Netrep Article is about continuous effects breaking into the middle of a resolving chain (between chain links)

Most people don't realize this or don't know when or how to resolve this.
 
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