The End Of Anubis & Exiled Force

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daleotar

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In the game F.A.Q., in the second paragraph the text about Skill Drain says:

? "Skill Drain" negates the effects of face-up Effect Monsters on the field, but does not negate effects ?that activate in the Graveyard?, such as "Witch of the Black Forest", "Sangan", "Mystic Tomato", "Giant Rat", "Exiled Force", "Sinister Serpent", and "Vampire Lord".

That text says in a clear form that the ?effect? of Exiled Force activates in the graveyard in a very textual form, that which confirmate that as the effect of Exiled Force activates in the graveyard, The End of Anubis negates this effect.

To confirm these text, I say that one thing in many cards is activate the effect, other thing is the cost of effect's activation, and other thing is the activation of the card; if a card have a cost to activate, the player pays first the cost and if the opponent not chain a counter trap, its ?effect? resolves in a correct form, that is to say, first goes the cost and after the activation of the ?effect? of the card, ?that is different that the activation of a card?, that is to say that Exiled Force effect have a cost, and then, if the opponent not chain Divine Wrath, the effect activates normally, and then, at that time, Exiled Force is in the graveyard when the effect of destroy 1 monster on the field is activated.

Please respond me in this forum, because,in tournament many times I have lost because according to the approach of a judge the "effect" of Exiled Force not activates in the graveyard.

Please, is better if an official upperdeck judge responds me, to confirm my question in legal form.

David Tarazona
YU-GI-OH UpperDeck Judge LEVEL 2

Thank you
 
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DaGuyWitBluGlasses said:
Cost are paid too activate a card: i.e before a card is activated. (EDIT Placing a card on the field doesn't mean it's activated (yet))

Therefore Exiled Force (this monster)will be in the graveyard when it activates.
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That's probably the best reason and most likely the only readon why Exiled Force would be negated by The End of Anubis by rulings.
 
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To add to the points said previously, if these kind of effects were to be activated in the graveyard, the ownership should matter, but let's look at Skilled Dark Magician:

Skilled Dark Magician
Effect Monster (Spellcaster / DARK / 4 Stars / ATK 1900 / DEF 1700)
Each time you or your opponent activates 1 Spell Card, put 1 Spell Counter on this card (max. 3). Tribute this card with 3 Spell Counters on it to Special Summon 1 "Dark Magician" from your hand, Deck, or Graveyard.

- If a player controls the opponent's "Skilled Dark Magician" and Tribute it with 3 Spell Counters, the player who controlled and Tributed the "Skilled Dark Magician" is the player who Special Summons "Dark Magician" from the hand, Deck, or Graveyard.

The "your" here reffers to the controller of Skilled Dark Magician, not the owner. Are there any effects that are activated in the graveyard that could use the "you" refering to the controller and not the owner?
 
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Maester Bacman said:
The "your" here reffers to the controller of Skilled Dark Magician, not the owner. Are there any effects that are activated in the graveyard that could use the "you" refering to the controller and not the owner?
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No.

All effects that tributes themselves or tributes cards on the field are manually activated effects that activate on the field. Guess you can say whoever is the controller will be the benefitter.
 
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The only reason I believe why the ruling states The End of Anubis would negate Exiled Force, is because its sent from the "the field to the graveyard" like Witch of The Black Forest, even thought Exiled Force does not state such text.

"When this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard," select 1 monster with a DEF of 1500 or less from your Deck, show it to your opponent, and add it to your hand. Then shuffle your Deck.

"Tribute this face-up card." Destroy 1 monster on the field.

The Italic text must mean it sent from field to the graveyard.

I thinks that's what the ruling means. Any effects that go from the field to the graveyard is considered a graveyard effect, and would be negated by The End of Anubis.
 
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StRiKe_NiNjA said:
The only reason I believe why the ruling states The End of Anubis would negate Exiled Force, is because its sent from the "the field to the graveyard" like Witch of The Black Forest, even thought Exiled Force does not state such text.

"When this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard," select 1 monster with a DEF of 1500 or less from your Deck, show it to your opponent, and add it to your hand. Then shuffle your Deck.

"Tribute this face-up card." Destroy 1 monster on the field.

The Italic text must mean it sent from field to the graveyard.

I thinks that's what the ruling means. Any effects that go from the field to the graveyard is considered a graveyard effect, and would be negated by The End of Anubis.
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It can't be.

Exiled's effect creates the event of Tributing Exiled.

Witch of the Black Forest's effect Triggers after the event has already occured, her effect does not create the event.
 
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densetsu_x said:
SN: Not at all.

If "Banisher of the Light" is on the field and "Witch of the Black Forest" or "Sangan" is sent off the the field (destroyed, tributed, whatever), they are removed from play and do NOT get their effect.

"Exiled Force" in this scenario is tributed, removed from play and another monster is destroyed (and likewise removed from play).
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With ruling the way it is with End of Anubis, Exiled Force wouldn't have it's effect go off sicne it never makes it to the graveyard.

chaosruler said:
Well, meh, then the YGO world is now on its left ear, lol

StRiKe - i think EoA wouldn't negate X-Force, but that's just me

-chaosruler
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I don't agree with that ruling at ALL Just lettin ya kno chaosruler.

It's bull%$#@!
 
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hehe, indeed, now chill on the language

Man, i can just see the intensity in the arguments that we will have when we try to enforce this ruling, if we choose to do so ;)

-chaosruler
 
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