the end of anubis vs exiled force

Sakura Sakamoto

Sakura Sakamoto

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I was just wondering if my opponent could exiled force to destroy the end of anubis as the end of anubis negetes the effects of monsters spells and traps that target and activate in the graveyard?
 
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thanks for that.

i,ve got another question on exiled force where does exiled force activate because tributing it self is a cost and thats why it isn't negated by skill drain.

lets see if i've got this right it can resolve in the graveyard and if it's removed from play by a card like macro cosmos.

so where dos it activate
 
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jinzo64 said:
so exiled force is either an egnition effect or a trigger effect that activates on the field then resolves in the graveyard or out of play area.
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Just a note. It ACTIVATES on the field. The EFFECT resolves on the field.

HOWEVER, since the cost is trubuting himself, he is sent elsewhere (graveyard, RFG). This is why {error, ignor this}he End of Anubis {End of error} {EDIT} Skill Drain {End EDIT} can not negate it. It's not on the field when its effect resolves. ;)
 
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uhhhh yeah, UDE went over this like a year ago.

Exiled Force DOES in fact activate in the graveyard and WILL be negated by End of Anubis. This is because the card is considered activated AFTER you pay the cost.
 
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exiledforcefreak said:
uhhhh yeah, UDE went over this like a year ago.

Exiled Force DOES in fact activate in the graveyard and WILL be negated by End of Anubis. This is because the card is considered activated AFTER you pay the cost.
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Ok, the lack of emoticons makes me think you are serious here....Please tell me you're not being serious....
 
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exiledforcefreak said:
uhhhh yeah, UDE went over this like a year ago.

Exiled Force DOES in fact activate in the graveyard
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Yes. Under usual circumstances (i.e. unless it is tributed and somewhere other than the graveyard)

and WILL be negated by End of Anubis. This is because the card is considered activated after you pay the cost.
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No, this is more recent:

http://lists.upperdeck.com/read/messages?id=10056


"activates" has 2 meanings:

1-Declare the activation of a card.
Pay the cost.
Select the Target
2- The card now activates.

The End of Anubis cares about where the card is for the 1st meaning of "activation"

(why that 1 and not the other? because Konami Said so.

But its a good idea to keep the 2nd meaning in mind, in case Konami Flip Flops, or that another card comes out that cares about the 2nd meaning instead. Or possibly an effect that cares about both meanings.)
 
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exiledforcefreak said:
uhhhh yeah, UDE went over this like a year ago.

Exiled Force DOES in fact activate in the graveyard and WILL be negated by End of Anubis. This is because the card is considered activated AFTER you pay the cost.
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You might want to give a link to UDE's answer about this.

EDIT: I was a little slow in answering. T_T
 
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exiledforcefreak said:
yeah, i was informed by densetsu that they changed it. I was looking for the new and old post on the judges list...
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If I remember right, when UDE has a ruling change, they "update"(change) the postings on the List Server. Unless you keep the e-mails (I did, however lost in a computor crash untill I get it up again).

So you will not be able to "find" old rulings. I think this is to stop any confusion. No arguments that it says this here and that there.

The most current is at: http://lists.upperdeck.com/read/messages?id=10056#10056

Or:
http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/yugioh/en/gameplay/faqs/cardfaqs/default.aspx?first=S&last=T


If you look at it, it linked to something else, where the refering question of:
If that is the case then why does The End of Enubis negate Exiled Force?
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I think in the quoted question and list, that it may have been ruled differently. So, I think it has since changed. This is proof that the changes "wipe-out" old "out dated" rulings.
 
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CPMillerWV said:
Just a note. It (Exiled Force) ACTIVATES on the field. The EFFECT resolves on the field.

HOWEVER, since the cost is trubuting himself, he is sent elsewhere (graveyard, RFG). This is why The End of Anubis can not negate it. It's not on the field when its effect resolves. ;)
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If you meant Skill Drain instead of The End of Anubis, then your second conclusion is correct. Skill Drain only negates the effects of face-up monsters on the Field. Exiled Force is no longer on the Field, when its effect resolves. The End of Anubis does not negate Exiled Force because Exiled Force's ignition effect does not activate in the Graveyard.

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CPMillerWV said:
I think in the quoted question and list, that it may have been ruled differently. So, I think it has since changed. This is proof that the changes "wipe-out" old "out dated" rulings.
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It was referring to The End of Anubis' old Ruling, when Exiled Force was once called a Graveyard Effect, which it isnt anymore.
 
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a level 3 judge does not confuse skill drain with end of anubis.
one negates effects when they resolve FACE UP ON THE FIELD while another negates the effects that activate IN THE GRAVEYARD. two completly differant cards that do 2 completly differant things.
 
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Yeah. You tribute Exiled Force. It doesn't activate on the field. It goes to the Graveyard or RFP. But it doesn't activate in either of those places.

Where's Robert Stack when you need him?
 
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This is rich!! I'm dyin' over here!!! ROFL!!

:cog_roll

I'm sorry, I guess I should add something substantial to this debate, but I just can't get over how funny this thread is. It's still going!! LOL
 
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