The "Timing" question (Not again ¬¬)

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Ledah

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I've been wrong all of last week and I need some guidence

:p

Anyway...

If I would want to special summon a Gigantes, Aqua Spirit or some monster that requires to remove a monster from play, could my opponent chain D. D. Crow to remove the monter, BEFORE it's special summoned. (Assuming I only have 1 monter)
 
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Nope, summons/special summons (in this case) have no spell speed, don't use the chain, therefore D.D. Crow can't be chained (as it has nothing to chain to) to such summons.
 
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Nope they can't D.D. Crow it because... drum roll... it's COST! Woot!

Costs are always paid before any activation... so to play your Gigantes or similar, pay the cost and then play your Gigantes or similar. Rule is, you can't CHAIN to a COST... so they miss the timing for Gigantes, and other such special summon monsters. I had the same question awhile back on Megarock Dragon and Gigantes and got the answer from skey here:

http://www.cogonline.net/threads.47355
 
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No wonder it didn't make any sense...

You cant chain to costs...

Anyway....

Since we are in missing the timing topic. How would this work out?

I play Premature burial.
Opponent plays D.D Crow and removes the monster.

When all resolves

D.D Crow will remove the monster and the effect of prema will dissapear.

Could I activate the Dimension Inversion?

Or did I missed the timing becuase the last thing to happen was the destruction of prema by a game mechanic.
 
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As soon as the chain resolves, the last thing to have happened is the monster was removed from play, so yes, I think you can now activate Dimensional Inversion. Removing a fizzled Equip Card is not a "thing" that is looked at... my reasoning for this is simple.... if I played Return from the Different Dimension and after it resolves my opponent can play Bottomless Trap Hole... even though the last physical world thing to happen was that the RftDD card was removed from the field to the Graveyard since it had resolved.... when really the last game thing to have happened was some monsters got Special Summoned to the field from the RFP zone.
 
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SoilentG said:
if I played Return from the Different Dimension and after it resolves my opponent can play Bottomless Trap Hole... even though the last physical world thing to happen was that the RftDD card was removed from the field to the Graveyard since it had resolved.... when really the last game thing to have happened was some monsters got Special Summoned to the field from the RFP zone.
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Different scenario. With Ledah's case there's another effect between the Summon and Torrential Tribute, which just happens to disappear. Does this means it doesn't even count as anything and thus doesn't replace the "last thing happened"; or does it count as "something failed to resolve properly" (and thus the Special Summon is no longer the "last thing happened")?

I dunno.
 
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The effect of "Premature Burial" will still attempt to resolve and simply resolve w/o effect.

Since the last thing to have happened in the Game was the resolution of "Premature Burial", you would not be able to activate "Dimensional Inversion".

And just for the record, placing the resolved card in to the Graveyard (or RFP zone) does not mess with any timing.
 
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Aaarrggggg!!!

I was hopping I could activate Dimension Inversion....

O well...

But I could still activate Dimension Inversion when simultaneous effects activate, right?

Like book of life? or something simillar.
 
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Only if it's the last thing to happen... in Book of Life's case:

Book of Life
Normal Spell
Special Summon 1 Zombie-Type monster from your Graveyard to the field and remove from play 1 monster in your opponent's Graveyard.


you could because the last action is removing the opponent's (yours) monster from play. If the effect was reversed, say, "remove from play 1 monster from your opponent's Graveyard and Special Summon 1 Zombie-Type mosnter from your Graveyard" my guess is that you could not. Simon?
 
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I think it would work either way since they are two effects resolving at the same time, but then again...

It has to happen last...

This card is confusing me greatly (Dimension Inversion)

:p
 
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The events of "Book of Life" happen simultaneously in the eyes of the Game, so, yes, you can respond to the Special Summon of their monster with "Dimensional Inversion" since the last thing to have happened was also one of your monsters being removed from play.
 
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