Thpusand eyes restrict vs. Horus lv.6

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I was told bye a judge that you can't use thousand eyes restricts effect on Horus Lv.6 because it says Horus is unaffected by magic but, Horus is being turned into a magic not being effected by one. I would like an admin to answer this or a judge.
 
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TER will suck up Horus LV 4, 6, and 8 easily. They can only stop spells that either designate them as a target (TER is not a spell so LV 4 can be absorbed), be unaffected by any spell (Once again TER is not a spell), and TER is turning a monster into an equip spell not "activating" a spell card so LV 8 cannot negate it as well...

So all in a nutshell, no matter what Horus level, it can be sucked up by TER.
 
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helpoemer316 said:
TER will suck up Horus LV 4, 6, and 8 easily. They can only stop spells that either designate them as a target (TER is not a spell so LV 4 can be absorbed), be unaffected by any spell (Once again TER is not a spell), and TER is turning a monster into an equip spell not "activating" a spell card so LV 8 cannot negate it as well...

So all in a nutshell, no matter what Horus level, it can be sucked up by TER.
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Actually, TER cannot suck up LV4 as its effect is that control of it cannot be changed. I should probably also point out that LV6 does not just apply to Spell Cards that designate it as a target; it applies to all Spell Cards, but regardless of those minor details, the answer to the question being asked is that Horus LV6 can be turned into an Equip Spell Card by TER's effect, as previously stated.
 
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uh reminder, Thousand eyes restrict in no way is taking lets say control of the monsters.

once the monster has been turned into a Equip Spell card it no longer contains its effect.

Take control of Dark Ruler ha des, and it doesnt make it possible for relinquish to negate effects. and so on.
 
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you only got the "uh reminder" in the quote.

also, if this is the case, explain to me why?

you posted up info, but not a reason why.

If he becomes a equip spell card, he wouldnt longer contain his effect. meaning he would be stripped of his he cannot change sides effect.

just like if you get dark ruler ha des, Do you still get its effect? no.

what if you suck up D. D. warrior Girl, do you still get her effect? No.

so about the arrogance, how about you post a reason why, not just info on "no you cannot"

post reasons please.

Only here to learn right?
 
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Part of Thousand Eyes Restrict's effect involves taking control of the card to make it an Equip Spell Card. Blindly Loyal Goblin, Mataza the Zapper, and Horus Level 4 do not allow the change of control so TER cannot be targeted.
 
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ooh, okay, that makes alot of sence then.

because TER's effect involve the monsters to change location before it becomes equip spell cards is the reason why.

okay this clears alot of stuff up then.
 
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Right but not quite on the "why". The text preventing TER's effect is this (As long as this card remains face-up on the field, control of this card cannot switch.) You are the "controller" of all cards on your side of the field. TER's effect would place this card on your opponent's side of the field (doesn't really matter if it were a monster or spell/trap) TER can't target them because the "controller" of the "card" would have to be changed.
 
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level 6 still gets sucked up. there is no magic card being activated on him at any time.(though once he is a equip card mst will kill him as he lost his effect.)

about why you cant suck up blindly loyal goblin and the like. konami said so.period. thats the way its writen on netrep and we just get to guess at why how and when mechanics alll we want to.
 
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the.wise.duelist said:
I heard somewhere that if a TER sucks up a jinzo that jinzo is still on the field so its effect would still work so tell me if this is true...
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Not true.  "Jinzo" has no effect once it becomes equipped to "Thousand-Eyes Restrict". No monster cards will, either.
 
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TER/Relinquished

You can NOT take control of Horus LVL 4 because the card says, "Control of this CARD cannot switch." If it said, "control of this MONSTER can not switch," then YES, Thousand-eyes Restrict or Relinquished can certainly take him, cause at resolution, Horus becomes an equip card, not a monster. Absorbing monsters with either never brings them over as monsters to begin with, they automatically become equip cards, as such, even if ALL your monster slots are full, you can still take control of an opponents monster provided TER or Reliquished is not priorly equipped and a Spell/Trap slot is open.

:)
 
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Bear in mind, this forum has changed names and addresses twice since this thread was posted, so the information is hardly up to date. (October 2004) Aside from that there is no effect that states "control of this monster cannot switch" in those exact words. What matters, though, is not the wording, but the control issues involved.

Since there is no way for an Equip Spell Card to exist in your opponent's Monster Card Zones, it cannot be changed into an Equip Card first.

Since there is not way for a Monster Card to exist in your Spell/Trap Zone, there is no way for it to switch sides first.

The "transformation" and "transition" process both occur at the same time, not separately. So the wording in this case is not what makes the difference, but the mechanics of it.
 
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