Treeborn Frog SOI-EN025? (Yomigaeru SOI-JP025)

I think I said something like, "I'll probably rate Mythical Beast Cerberus, Magical Dimension"...

I lied? I don't know. I think I said maybe. For now, I'll rate another card, and then go back. Hey, it's my topic.

Anyway, before I go back to the recent new releases, I'm just gunna go ahead and rate the most powerful card among the upcoming cards in the next Shadow of Infinity Pack.

Yes I'm talking the most horrid, the most powerful, the ultimate, weenie 100ATK monster?

Yeah, it's Yomigaeru. I think the English version, it's gunna be named Treeborn Frog. I've heard of this in some places. Who knows. But for now, I'm gunna call it Treeborn Frog, and then change it to whatever the real name is once the name is confirmed. (This is USA YGO forum.)

Now, let's see it's weenie power.

(Copied from dmcomet and it's JPN text.)

SOI-JP025
Yomigaeru ("Yomi Frog")
Water/Aqua/1/100/100
When this card is in your Graveyard at your Standby Phase, and you don't have Magic/Trap
cards on your field, you can special summon this card to your field. This effect
cannot be activate if a [Yomigaeru] is face-up on your field.
Rare

Basically, it's a "weak" monster as in 100ATk and 100DEF. It's not gunna be able to kill anything. Even Magician of Faith can kill this card. It's just that weak in number stats. But then, why does no one uses Lust Dragon or Blue-Eyes White Dragon if they got supreme numbers. That's cause often time, the effect can make a weenie card supreme, and a powerful stat card into crap.

So let's look at the stats. It basically says, as long as you have no s/t on your field, at your stand-by phrase, you can special summon from the graveyard. Yeah, it's a free summon. And it's optional meaning you can choose to have one, or not have one. Whatever. And since it's a special summon, you can still normal summon a monster. So you got instant 2 card swarm. But you'll be saying, "Swarm with 100ATK." Well Jim, no don't put this in ATK position, just put it in DEF position and it's a 1 turn hit wall. But then you'll be saying Spirit Reaper is better then that. But here's the thing, this comes out from the graveyard. So there is absolutely no hand cost. So it's instant field advantage. Spirit Reaper, you have to at least waste a normal summon. THis card doesn't

However, that's not the true nature of this card. I said a free 1 monster on the field as special summon. And since you got a 1 normal summon choice and you got 1 monster on the field. That's right, the true power of this card is that it's a bonus freebie tribute. Yep, a free Tribute. So if your packing alot of lvl 5-6 monster, this card is for YOU! (Yes, I'm talking to you Soul Control Moarchy decks. This is your best hot sexy wife you'll ever get.) Heck, this card is for everybody. (Sorry Soul Control, but this card also goes around and give freebie hot loving service to everyone else for free. She's too hot. What can you do. She got an unending love to every living tribute monsters.)

So like I said, this is a Soul Control's dream. With this card addition, you don't even NEED to worry about having a Snatch Steal, or Brain Control, or Soul Exchange, to get a tribute monster summon. Even without that, you always have 1 monster wall. So this card is god in late ending part of the metagames where everyone will be top-decking. Say the game is almost over and you got no cards on the field or hand and your top-decking. You drew Mobius. But there's no mosnter to tribute summon this. In most cases, this is a dead draw and you lost your match. However, now with this card, you can choose to summon Treeborn Frog from the graveyard at your stand-by Phase, tribute it for Mobius, knock every other s/t on the foe's field, and go for the win. Good job, you just won your game! And it's all thanks to Treeborn Frog. Even if you top decking and you drew a useless card, you can summon Treeborn Frog for a 1 turn stall. This can be good when you top-decked Return from the Different Dimension. This card is considered one of the best top-deck cards. But the only prob is, you have to wait 1 turn. And in alot of cases, you just don't have the time. Come in Treeborn Frog, just stall 1 turn so I can summon my 3x DDA, 1x DDWL for OTK win the game.

If you haven catch the drift. This card is the younger brother of the evil Sinister Serpent. If Sinister Serpent was a free-discard, 1 free monster card in hand broken card, this card is 1 free tribute, 1 free monster on field card broken card. This card doesn't have the broken deadly poison poison like his evil brother, but lick this toad and you'll be seeing stars, stars of when your foe's Moby Whale just nuked the entire field that is.

I'm actually expecting some counter techs to be almost a staple in deck design or side-decks JUST to counter this. Remember when DDA hit the US world? People were packing 3x DDA, 1x DDWL to mass removal. And then ram RftDD OTK at the late final part of the battle. People are teching, AND STILL TECHING, D.D. Survivor JUST to counter these cards. D.D. Survivor, the effect by itself, is a crappy card. But since DDA/DDWL are running way too often and wreaking havoc, people have no choice but to tech it. With Treeborn Frog, I'm expecting the revival of Soul Release spell card, and Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer as monster card. I mean come on, Kycoo DIED quite awhile ago. But it might be the only thing to get rid of that Treeborn Frog from the graveyard and put it removed from play so they can't keep that frog in there.

But even WITH Kycoo, there's still gunna be major annoyance. I mean, look at DDS. Sure, it's tech can kill DDA/DDWL just safely. But then your foe summons Cyber Dragon, kill DDS, and THEN summon another copy of DDA on the field. Now you HAVE to bring back DDS and waste a CotH/Premature just to get rid of another DDA. I can see the same picture for Treeborn Frogs if people runs these in triples. I set Treeborn Frog. Then my foe kills it and send it to the grave. Now your foe have to tech Kycoo/Soul Release to get rid of Treeborn Frog. Now I summon Cyber Dragon to kill off Kycoo. Then I set another 2nd copy of Treeborn Frog. Now your foe have to CotH/Premature their Kycoo or MoF their Soul Release. They were able to get rid of my 2nd Treeborn Frog. I get rid of Kycoo again, and then set my final 3rd Treeborn Frog.... now I need to run away from the game after I win cause he's gunna come running at me with a baseball bat pounded with nails.

You kinda see where I'm going with this. I mean, this card, literally downgrade all level 5-6 monster cards into lvl 4 normal summoning without tribute monster. And as a bonus, with no cost cause there's no hand disadvantage. Now people can FINALLY maybe use those lvl 7-8 cards they never bothered using cause those cards have no been downgraded to lvl 5-6 with no cost.

And final thought. Treeborn Frog effect can only be done when there's no 0 s/t on your field. Meaning, people are not gunna be running that many continous spell/traps anymore. (Say good by to Royal Decree?) Now the ONLY continu-ish card people will use are CotH/Premature/Snatch Steal.

(Besides also in SOI Silent Insect. A total Countinous card counter. If you want to know that stat.

SOI-JP020
Silent Insect
Earth/Insect/2/200/300
When this card is successfully Normal Summoned or Reverse Summoned put it in defense mode. When this card is face-up on the field, negate the effects of all Continuous Magic and Continuous Trap cards.

Yep, it means this card can TOTALLY KILL all burn/stall Decks. Say goodbye to Royal Decree/Gravity Bind/LLAB/Skill Drain/etc. Another good bug, and another card I'll rate in the future.)

And guess what, since people won't be setting too many s/t on the field, this actually WEAKENS your Mobius. (ZOMG, Mobius weakened? BLASHEMY!) Now listen out. Since Mobius is a tribute monster, to get the fair 2 vs 2 trade, you need to and should destroy 2 sets of your foe's s/t. So if your foe's is using like just 1 s/t for the entire duel cause of Treeborn Frog on the graveyard, then well you cannot fully use the power of Mobius. And guess what, after you DO bring out Mobius and then destroy all cards on the foe's field. Then your foe will bring out Treeborn Frog at stand-by Phrase, and then summon HIS Mobius to instantly nuke your 2 s/t you set after you bring out Mobius. See what I'm saying of how Mobius power have been weakened by Treeborn Frog, it's instant equaliser that works both ways. (It's kinda funny. This card is Soul Control's wife, and yet at the same time sleeping with other deck styles and majorly hurting it. Like I said, this card just goes away giving service to any tribute monster.) It's kinda like how Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch and Don Zaloog gotten severly weakened just because of Dark World monsters and especially cause of Goldd, Wu-Lord of Dark World.



Overall, this card is 1 card combo. Don't need support but instead support all others. If supported, turns totally evil. run it in 3's and it's extremely overkill for your foe to counter. The fact that I'm seeing tech-counter cards coming from it's "trash section" ashes to counter this card shows it's enormous powers.





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In the end, I give this card a

11 out of 10

That's right TCG world. PLEASE semi-limit to 2 or restrict this card into 1 per deck. This toad licking is just too powerful for one man to handle without going into coma seeing stars and swirlies.


(NOTE: To my other card rating and how I do things, please check my Lets Study cards with the Doctor)
 
drzero7 said:
(Besides also in SOI Silent Insect. A total Countinous card counter. If you want to know that stat.

SOI-JP020
Silent Insect
Earth/Insect/2/200/300
When this card is successfully Normal Summoned or Reverse Summoned put it in defense mode. When this card is face-up on the field, negate the effects of all Continuous Magic and Continuous Trap cards.

Yep, it means this card can TOTALLY KILL all burn/stall Decks. Say goodbye to Royal Decree/Gravity Bind/LLAB/Skill Drain/etc.

Of course you realize an active Skill Drain will trump this bug?


As for our little froggie friend I believe that instead of seeing the rise of Soul Release we may instead see a lot more of our neglected master fiend The End of Anubis. Who will kick his little treeborn butt. Still it will be splashed into most decks and be quite annoying.

Excellent review.
 
Treeborn Frog is the best card in SOI, in my opinion.


Too bad you got to reviewing it before I did.

I was going to review it when I got back from the Sneak Peak next week.
 
Of course you realize an active Skill Drain will trump this bug?

This is how it goes for Silent Insect IMO. (But there should be some card ruling to clarify.)

If Silent Insect is ALREADY on the field, you activate Skill Drain, then Skill Drain is negated and thus useless.

If Skill Drain is on the field already, then Silent Insect effect is negated.

I think that's now it goes...

Either that, or Silent Insect is tier 1, and Skill Drain being trap is tier 2 and thus Skill Drain beats Silent Insect.

Too bad you got to reviewing it before I did.

I was going to review it when I got back from the Sneak Peak next week.

No no, please review. I'm probably not the best reviewer in this place. I've seen other card reviews and some of them are way better then mine.

As for our little froggie friend I believe that instead of seeing the rise of Soul Release we may instead see a lot more of our neglected master fiend The End of Anubis. Who will kick his little treeborn butt. Still it will be splashed into most decks and be quite annoying.

I don't know. The End of Anubis have a prob being a lvl 6 tribute monster. Not as easily can be used as Kycoo, which is a lvl 4. But yeah, being a 2500ATK monster, it'll kill any monster in today's metagame. (It just that nobody cared about his effect.)

EDIT:

Treeborn Frog is the best card in SOI, in my opinion.

No, it's the best card in SOI PEROID. Treeborn Frog beats Uria + Hamon + Ravel + Cyber Proto/Lazer/Barrier + Ancient Gear Drill COMBINED!

I'm getting like 10x of that toad at least. (Cause it fits in practically any deck. It's a Rare, but not THAT bad as Super Rare+.) 10 might be overboard, but you know what I mean.
 
chaosruler said:
Uh, Kycoo already sees play since Strike Ninja use has increased. Kycoo's far from dead.

-John
Kycoo is uber side deck material once again. Pot of Avarice/Magical Merchant speed deck? Nah... Kycoo. Chaos Sorcerer your cup of tea? Sorry... Kycoo. Magician's Circle? Wait... Kycoo.


But anyway, Treeborn Frog (that is the confirmed English name, by the way) will be very splashable. The optional return is incredible. Well done review.
 
Will Skill Drain stump this frog? :p

Can't you just bring him back later when Skill Drain is gone?

And yes, I will review him next Sunday when I get home from the sneak peak.

Skill Drain only negate the effect of the monster on the FIELD. Not the effects from your hand or from your graveyard. With Skill Drain active, you can still special summon Cyber Dragon directly from your hand, ALO still turns lvl 5 water monsters into lvl 4 monsters in your hand, your searcher monsters like Sangan and Mystic Tomato will still activate, and Exiled Force will still destroy 1 monster, etc. etc. So nope, Treeborn Frog is immune to Skill Drain cause it activates from the graveyard... sneaky little toad ain't he?
 
drzero7 said:
Skill Drain only negate the effect of the monster on the FIELD. Not the effects from your hand or from your graveyard. With Skill Drain active, you can still special summon Cyber Dragon directly from your hand, ALO still turns lvl 5 water monsters into lvl 4 monsters in your hand, your searcher monsters like Sangan and Mystic Tomato will still activate, and Exiled Force will still destroy 1 monster, etc. etc. So nope, Treeborn Frog is immune to Skill Drain cause it activates from the graveyard... sneaky little toad ain't he?


That's what I thought
 
Mark my words, everyone is gonna flock to this card when it's released only to see it crash and burn. It won't get limited, it probably won't get semi-limited. The End of Anubis pwns this card in every way. Moreover, Fox Fire has existed for ages, and believe me, it is WAY better than that Tree Frog there. Fox Fire has massive combo potential that is easy to pull off.

I once built a truly devastating fire deck using UFO Turtle, Fox Fire, Solar Flare Dragon, and Ultimate Baseball Kid in triplicate. Fox Fire powered up my Kid, defended my Dragon, and could come out with my Turtle.

But the real reason Fox Fire is better is the absence of any spell / trap restriction. I can beat them with my Kid that's uber-pumped by a trio of Fox Fires, and they still can't get through that darned Gravity Bind :D
 
Mark my words, everyone is gonna flock to this card when it's released only to see it crash and burn. It won't get limited, it probably won't get semi-limited. The End of Anubis pwns this card in every way. Moreover, Fox Fire has existed for ages, and believe me, it is WAY better than that Tree Frog there. Fox Fire has massive combo potential that is easy to pull off.

I once built a truly devastating fire deck using UFO Turtle, Fox Fire, Solar Flare Dragon, and Ultimate Baseball Kid in triplicate. Fox Fire powered up my Kid, defended my Dragon, and could come out with my Turtle.

But the real reason Fox Fire is better is the absence of any spell / trap restriction. I can beat them with my Kid that's uber-pumped by a trio of Fox Fires, and they still can't get through that darned Gravity Bind


Yes, there ARE counters for this card I do know that. But The End of Anubis is a petty heavy counter since it's a tribute monster.

There's one HUGE difference between Fox Fire and Treeborn Frog that makes Treeborn Frog superior then Fox Fire in everyway. You CANNOT tribute Fox Fire for a tribute summon. So Fox Fire only use was either 1 DEF weenie wall, tribute effect ability, (like Ultimate Baseball Kid) or even Creature Swap use. But IMO, Fox Fire using for a tribute effect isn't that great since it's one time deal. (It only comes back when destroyed as a result of battle) So IMO, the true power of Fox Fire was Creature Swap and now Mystic Box as well. (Check my "GOOD" Water Dragon Swap deck for info)


I think I said in my topic that Treeborn Frog's true power is that it is in fact a free tribute monster. Not to mention, Fox Fire always comeback at the end phrase, and it ONLY comes back after it was destroyed as a result of battle. Those are some pretty bad negatives. Since Fox Fire is always on the field, it's an easy target for card effect destroyer and then never come back. (Exiled Force, Smashing Ground, if that's the sole card on the field, Drillroid, etc.) So once Fox Fire died by a card effect, it's dead and thus you need to was CotH/Premature on it. Treeborn Frog doesn't matter HOW it went to the graveyard, it just needs to be there. So it can be destroyed by a card effect and thus sent to the grave, it can be discard to the grave, it can be sent from deck to the grave, doesn't matter how. And you can CHOOSE to bring it back or not, if The End of Anubis on the field, just kill it, then bring it back when needed. The option and flexability is so huge and bound with Treeborn Frog it isn't funny. It's not Sinister Serpent evil, but it's still pretty darn evil enough. Fox Fire doesn't last till end games as 1 DEF wall cause by that time, the players would have destroyed that card by a card effect since it keep coming back each turn, giving them plenty of options to choose from. Treeborn Frog, once it's in the grave, they can just choose it not to bring it back at all until the late game where everybody is top decking and very few cards on the field when monsters are critical.
 
Again, Dark Ruler Ha Des is a heavy cost since it is a tribute monster. To fix a non-tribute monster with a tribute monster counter is a heavy price. And it might be funny, but they can use CotH/Premature on their Treeborn Frog to reactivate it's effect. (I think that's possible, since it's re-face-up on the field, it's reset? I mean, is the negating the effect permenant?)

IMO, the best remedy for Treeborn Frog is Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer . Just remove that toad from play. Yeah, there's already the rising of Bazoo and Strike Ninja, might as well tackle all three of them together.
 
drzero7 said:
Again, Dark Ruler Ha Des is a heavy cost since it is a tribute monster. To fix a non-tribute monster with a tribute monster counter is a heavy price. And it might be funny, but they can use CotH/Premature on their Treeborn Frog to reactivate it's effect. (I think that's possible, since it's re-face-up on the field, it's reset? I mean, is the negating the effect permenant?)

IMO, the best remedy for Treeborn Frog is Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer . Just remove that toad from play. Yeah, there's already the rising of Bazoo and Strike Ninja, might as well tackle all three of them together.
Once it's removed fromthe graveyard it's effect is reset. But if they use call or preme, they waste a revival and have a 100 in attack posistion. Dark Ruler is 1 tribute is only matched by 3 other cards. The End of Anubis, Giga Gagagigo, and Summoned Skull.

can someone look at my newest deck
 
Tell that to Dillie-O. I think he runs a Ha Des in alll his decks. :D

Seriously, though, there was a time people were running Has Des as near staple just to negate popular meta abilities. Back when people thought it was a great idea to run three Magician of Faiths along with two Morphing Jar #2 and a Cyber Jar in their deck, Dark Ruler Ha Des saw a lot of play. Wouldn't be surprised if he sees rampant splashing again.
 
But if they use call or preme, they waste a revival and have a 100 in attack posistion.

I was thinking more of using CotH/Premature on a negated Treeforn Frog in DEF position, and then immediately tribute it off for Mobius so it's safely back in the graveyard with the effect active. But yeah, wasting a CotH/Premature is indeed a heavy cost. Remember special summon are either face-up ATK position or face-up DEF. You don't ever need to pu Treeborn Frog in ATK position at all.

Tell that to Dillie-O. I think he runs a Ha Des in alll his decks. :D

Seriously, though, there was a time people were running Has Des as near staple just to negate popular meta abilities. Back when people thought it was a great idea to run three Magician of Faiths along with two Morphing Jar #2 and a Cyber Jar in their deck, Dark Ruler Ha Des saw a lot of play. Wouldn't be surprised if he sees rampant splashing again.

It might. I mean, Ha Des was like the only Sinister Remedy IMO. And with DDA gunna bein restricted to 1 per deck. (High chance) we might see Newdoria back in the game, and that's the only good Fiend monster to put in Metagames so it'll combo with Ha Des.

And yeah, Ha Des and The End of Anubis might come back to counter Chainsaw Insect in SOI.
 
I notice you said to semi-restrict/restrict Treeborn Frog.

I disagree.

It's effect sets itself up to run only 1 copy of the card, at risk of having 1 on your field already.

You can really only have 1 activating successfully.

So limiting it to 1 or 2 will only prove that Konami thinks it's a semi-broken card. :p

Well, hopefully something in my deck gets banned so I can pop this sucka in. Since I really can't touch my deck because there's nothing to take out.
 
Well, hopefully something in my deck gets banned so I can pop this sucka in. Since I really can't touch my deck because there's nothing to take out.

Take out extra copy of DDA. That thing is defiantely gunna get restricted to 1x per deck.

It's effect sets itself up to run only 1 copy of the card, at risk of having 1 on your field already.

True. And thank GOD for that effect. Without that, you can like pop all 3x Treeborn Frogs from the grave and nuke the field with Gilford the Lightning.

I'm saying adding more then 1 copy is to just increase the chance of the draw. And having more then 1 copy is to counter those "Anti-Treeborn Frog" strat that might come out in the future that we're talking about in this thread.

But in most deck, 1x is enough definately. You don't want like 3x Treeborn Frogs in your hand all wasting space.
 
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