Tribe-Infecting Virus problem

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1nv4d3r

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I need some help. In the store I usually play with my friends, the older duelists(they play the game more time) said that TIV's effect has changed. They say that we can ONLY declare a type that exist on the opponent's side of the field. I know that's incorrect, and if i start discussing with them, it won't be worth the effort because they are really stubborn.
Can you please state some facts regarding TIV's effect so it would be easier to persuade them?

Thnx in advance
 
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Dlanaan, you didn't understand what he said... He is correct, because if you read the post again, you'll see that the players at his store says that you can ONLY DECLARE A TYPE IF IT EXISTS IN YOUR OPPONENT'S FIELD. And that's wrong. You can declare any type that exists on the field (your side and the opponent side).
 
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You're right. I missed the 'opponent's side' text. To answer the question then, Tribe-Infecting Virus does not state opponent's side on its text in the same way that Ring of Destruction does not. If it doesn't state opponent's side of the field, like some cards (Destruction Ring) do, then it is generally safe to assume it works for both sides.
 
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People will generally reach for anything that may sound "technically" correct or incorrect when it is a matter of destroying monsters on the field. I know I personally hate to see TIV summoned and my opponent having more than one card in hand....
 
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Inv4d3r were do you play?

There are some guys at the shop that I play at when Lava Golem is played on there side of the field tried to use TIV and were told that you can not remove a monster from your side of the field unless the same type of monster is on your opponents side of the field.
 
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Straight from the UDE page

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] TRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] You declare the Type when you activate the effect and discard for the cost, not when the effect resolves, so your opponent can chain after you have announced which Type will be destroyed.

You CAN declare a Type that exists only on your opponent's side of the field. You CANNOT declare a Type that is not face-up on the field at all.

You can use this effect repeatedly as long as you can keep paying the cost. [/font]
 
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ensabehnur said:
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] TRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] You declare the Type when you activate the effect and discard for the cost, not when the effect resolves, so your opponent can chain after you have announced which Type will be destroyed.

You CAN declare a Type that exists only on your opponent's side of the field. You CANNOT declare a Type that is not face-up on the field at all.

You can use this effect repeatedly as long as you can keep paying the cost. [/font]
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Be careful how you place this statement/ruling.

Even though you can call "only" monsters on your opponents side, it still effects the WHOLE field, so if your opponent Chained to TIV's effect and changed all monsters to the called type with DNA, then ALL monsters would be sent.
 
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ive done it alot of the times, if i need certain requirements in the graveyard, ill get them in there through my own monsters.

its the reason why i love hysteric fairies effect so much.

you can send 2 monsteres and gain 1000lp

and then in return later summon something through them. :)
 
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You can declare any sub-type face-up on the field, as long as the sub-type you declare is face-up on the field. Don't matter which side of the field it is.

However, you cannot delcare a sub-type on the field if the sub-type you want to declare does not exist.
 
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Its to keep you from dumping monsters to the grave for no other reason than using their presence in the grave to your advantage. The effect of discarding was ment to be a cost effect only, and not to be abused for other purposes.
 
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Yu-Gi-Oh! doesn't restrict the power of a card, and I don't mean the Advanced List or anything in that manner.

It's simply a condition they put in order for the effect to resolve in a correct way, and how an effect should be order to activate.

It's like if one activated Inferno Fire Blast, and the opposing player chains Magic Jammer to negate it, and the player who activated can't just go oh i'll take that back or whatever.
 
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According to the RONIN program, the effect of Tribe-Infecting Virus reads as follows:

"Discard 1 card from your hand and declare 1 Type of monster to destroy all face-up monsters of the declared Type on both sides of the field."

So, you can declare whatever sub-type you want, but it stands to reason you want to make the most of the effect by naming the most sub-types on your opponent's side of the field. Also, to maximize the effectiveness of the effect of TIV, I would suggest DNA Surgery. Changes everything to a selected type, and pretty much clears the field for you.
 
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