why butter fly elma will alwys be restriced

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burning soler flare

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simple set wood land sprit and make shure he does not get destroyed and when it is your turn play magical libary and equiped it to your Woodland Sprite not only do they losse like points but when you send it to the grave yard 3 times you draw a card so many infenty combos with this card because you could simply just send it to the grave yard till there dead



exoida deck traditonal
 
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About Woodland Sprite and Butterfly Dagger - Elma

The effect of Woodland Sprite only "send" Equip spell cards to the graveyard, it is never "destroyed" so you cannot retrieve Butterfly Dagger - Elma this way.

It's better off if you use Gearfried The Iron Knight, you meet the conditions when Gearfried destroys Elma with it's effect, so you can retrieve it.
 
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untrue sir. Butterfly dagger -elma has to be destroyed by a card effect.


you are sending it not destroying it. so the only reason why Butterfly dagger will be restricted in Traditional and Banned in advance is because you can easily combo it with the following cards.


Gearfreed The Iron Knight + Dagger elma. this is the loop.

additions to this loop are the following.

Spell Absorption = Very very very high LP
Magical Marionette = Very very Very High attacker + monster Destroyer
Magical Marionette + Mystic Wok = Very very very very High LP + Monster Destroyer
Spell Absorption + Fire Princess = instant Opponent loss
Morale Boost + Fire Princess = instant Opponent Loss
Royal Magical Lybrary = Draw your whole deck.


over all you can literally make a deck were you can get everything in your hand.

First
3x Gearfreed
3x Fire Princess
3x Mystic Wok
3x Iron Blacksmith
3x Spell Absorption
3x Magical Marionette
3x Morale Boost
1x Butter Fly Dagger - Elma
2x Last Will

that preaty much, plus adding staples = 80% chance of winning by one form or another.

preaty much your opponening hand should be the following cards.

Gracefull, Gearfreed, Lastwill, ButterFly Dagger, Premature, Cannon Soldier.

Play Gracefull
pick up 3 Discard Cannon Soldier + another card.

hopefully at this point you drew the Spell Absorption.

play Spell Absorption

Play Preamture get the Cannon Soldier

play Last Will

Use the soldiers effect
Special SUmmon Fire Princess

Normal Summon Gear freed.

Game.

But for that to happen its like having exodia in your hand anyways. but alot easier since you can get 3 of each except for the dagger. which makes this deck OTK than FTK.
 
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moral boost increases your LP everytime an equip card is equiped to a monster.

Gearfreed then destroys the equip card, now you lose 1000lp.

Fire Princess says that when ever you increase your LP, your opponent takes 500.

the combination is fast, but it actually does work, untill there is shown proof of something breaking the combination.

which in current moment im not seeing.
 
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krazykidpsx said:
moral boost increases your LP everytime an equip card is equiped to a monster.

Gearfreed then destroys the equip card, now you lose 1000lp.

Fire Princess says that when ever you increase your LP, your opponent takes 500.

the combination is fast, but it actually does work, untill there is shown proof of something breaking the combination.

which in current moment im not seeing.
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haha whoops my bad, the combo in the thread was:

Gearfried + Archfiend of Gilfer + Morale Boost + Fire Princess

which wouldn't work
 
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well yea, thats like using Woodland Sprite with Archfiend, it has to be the last thing to happen.


archfiend is optional and since you cant add something while something is resolving unless its already happening then you know. cant work. :)

But yea, over all the combos i posted are the reason why it got banned. which is not like i didnt know it wouldnt happen, i forsaw it to bad you cant make a deck anymore with the combo like they did in japan.
 
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hey, also, if u insist on woodland sprite, try this:

woodland sprite + gearfried + butterfly dagger - elma + royal magical library + sword of deep-seated= GAME

i will explain in detail if necessary

-chaosruler
 
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sword of deep-seated doesn't care how it is sent, it ust bounces back on top

so have gearfried the iron knight, royal magical library and woodland sprite on your field, equip SoDS, send it off
deal 500, SoDS goes on top
play elma 3 times on gearfried
remove counters from RML
draw SoDS equip to woodland sprite
rinse and repeat

-chaosruler
 
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Elma can be easily used to draw any amount needed in your deck to get Exodia and win if you know the exact amount of cards you got and what has been played, do the math and get Exodia out... That's the most threatining reason it got in the list
 
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I wouldn't say that the Exodia draw combo was the reason that it got banned. It takes too much time to get out Royal Magical Library and Gearfried then get the Dagger.

I would say that the reason that it got banned was the fact that Soul Absorbtion is coming out. This card with Gearfried and the Dagger can more easily be brought out in one turn for an infinite number of life points.
This can be done a lot easier because you don't have to get out two monsters. Playing two magic cards is much easier than getting two monsters.

:)
 
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exactly. the extensive combos seen with gearfreed made it possible to just ban the key card than just restrict a number of cards.

its the same reaon i guess why Magica scientist hit the list as well. the age of FTK and OTK is now over.
 
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