Yubel 1st & 2nd forms

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jinseth

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I have a ? about Yubel 1st & 2nd forms. The text for Yubels 1st form say,

You take no Battle Damage from battles involving this card. When this face-up Attack Position card is attacked by your opponent's monster, before damage calculation inflict damage to your opponent equal to that monster's ATK.

The text for the 2nd form says,

All Battle Damage you take from a battle involving this card becomes 0. If this face-up Attack Position card is attacked by your opponent's monster, inflict damage to your opponent's Life Points equal to the ATK of the attacking monster.

The ? that I have is that does the effect of the card only work when Yubel is attacked, or does the effect work also, work when you attack with yubel because you should take damage for the difference of the 2 attack points. Could u let me know thanks.
 
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jinseth said:
I have a ? about Yubel 1st & 2nd forms. The text for Yubels 1st form say,

You take no Battle Damage from battles involving this card. When this face-up Attack Position card is attacked by your opponent's monster, before damage calculation inflict damage to your opponent equal to that monster's ATK.

The text for the 2nd form says,

All Battle Damage you take from a battle involving this card becomes 0. If this face-up Attack Position card is attacked by your opponent's monster, inflict damage to your opponent's Life Points equal to the ATK of the attacking monster.

The ? that I have is that does the effect of the card only work when Yubel is attacked, or does the effect work also, work when you attack with yubel because you should take damage for the difference of the 2 attack points. Could u let me know thanks.
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The answer to your question is in the text for both cards- "when this face up attack position card is attacked by your opponent's monster." This strictly implies that it is your opponent attacking during their Battle Phase and not you attacking their monster. This is a turn-based effect and can only work during your opponent's Battle Phase, not yours.
 
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As HorusMaster said. ONLY when your opponent's monster declares an attack on your Yubel 1 or 2 does the effect work.

The damage that is inflicted is equal to the ATK of the opponent's monster that is attacking your Yubel 1 or 2. There's no subtraction or differences or anything involved. If Gemini Elf is attacking, your opponent will take 1900 damage. Easy.
 
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In that they both inflict damage equal to the ATK of the attacking monster, yes. In many other ways, they're completely different, but you can probably notice how. It's probably best to not compare Yubel to Reflect Bounder, though, because of those differences and the misunderstandings that could arise.
 
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are there any cards that can make your opponet force 2 attack Yubel? Or is it just best 2 let the card get destroyed until it gets 2 its 3rd form, were u can attack an deal damage 2 your opponet.
 
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Sure there are. Staunch Defender is probably the best card (there are one or two others, but I can't remember them).

The good thing about Staunch Defender is, if your target monster (the one everyone must attack) is destroyed before all your opponent's monsters have attacked it, the opponent's monsters who have yet to attack cannot attack at all this turn. That's because they must attack the (your) target monster, but they can't because it doesn't exist on the field.
 
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Just to open and ol' ol' topic

What if...

My opponent has a yubel 2 (Sorry cant remember the full name XD) And I have both a monarc and soul exchange

If I use this combo...
Yubel will miss the timing right?

O yeah...

And if yubel is tributed (Let's say for a Normal monster) it's effect will resolve...
Right???
 
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My opponent controls Yubel - Terror Incarnate. I activate Soul Exchange, and target that Yubel. I then Tribute it to Tribute Summon my Mobius the Frost Monarch.

There are two things here that are all considered the "last thing to happen": Yubel left the field, and a monster was Tribute Summoned. Since Yubel leaving was the last thing to happen, its effect triggers. However, Mobius's effect also triggers, and since it's my monster (and it's my turn), Mobius's effect becomes Chain Link 1. Yubel's effect becomes Chain Link 2. The owner of Yubel gets the effect.

The same goes for if Yubel is Tributed for a Summon (which would be a simpler scenario than the one just explored involving Soul Exchange).
 
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[info]Yubel - Terror Incarnate
.... If this card is removed from the field, you can Special Summon 1 "Yubel - The Ultimate Nightmare" from your hand, Deck or Graveyard.
[/info]In that situation, "Yubel - Terror Incarnate" would miss the timing for her effect to activate. This is because her effect is optional, and the last thing to happen is the Tribute Summon of "Mobius the Frost Monarch".
 
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Maruno said:
There are two things here that are all considered the "last thing to happen": Yubel left the field, and a monster was Tribute Summoned. Since Yubel leaving was the last thing to happen, its effect triggers. However, Mobius's effect also triggers, and since it's my monster (and it's my turn), Mobius's effect becomes Chain Link 1. Yubel's effect becomes Chain Link 2. The owner of Yubel gets the effect.
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Something doesn't make sense on this scenario....

How can Yubel leaving the field is the last thing to happen?

I would have guessed that the last thing to happen was Mobius summoned to field hence Yubel missing it's timing. Right?
 
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Summons are instantaneous. Everything about it (both the Tributing the monster and the Summoning of the new monster) are considered to happen at the same time.

Consider something like Fissure destroying Yubel. I think we'd agree that Yubel gets its optional effect there, even though, according to you, the last thing to happen is the Spell Card being sent to the Graveyard. Several things can be the "last thing to happen" (monster destroyed, Spell Card resolved, Spell Card goes to Graveyard). Same principle.
 
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The Official UDE FAQ for Pinch Hopper said:
Missing the Timing: Because the effect of "Pinch Hopper" effect is an optional “when… you can” Trigger Effect, "Pinch Hopper" being sent to the Graveyard has to be the very last thing that happened in order for you to activate its effect. So if you Tribute "Pinch Hopper" for a Tribute Summon, you cannot activate the effect of “Pinch Hopper” because the last thing to happen will be the Summoning of the Tribute monster. Also, if you Tribute “Pinch Hopper” for “Cannon Soldier”, the very last thing that happened will be the 500 points of damage inflicted to your opponent, so the effect of “Pinch Hopper” will not activate.
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With Tribute Summons, you Tribute the monster, and then the Summon occurs. "Yubel - Terror Incarnate" won't get her effect, just like "Pinch Hopper" won't.
 
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