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SoulB.

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hey thats a nice way of putting stuff. :D

I like how it makes a wave. :)

but beyond the design of the post.

it looks to me like a hybrid version of CC and Zombie. it quite possibly be CCombie :D lol.

but, lets see maybe a bit more of Monster destruction? :)
 
mh you're right, but actually a pure zombie can only be a crash because I personally don't see the point in using Regenerating Mummis...So let's call it Ccombies-Deck XD

I was thinking about another Vampire Lord instead of the Cyber Dragon, then a Blast with Chain instead of x (dunno...maybe the Devastation Virus..maybe.). About the "Monster Destruction" thing, 2 Saku, Smashing, Vortex, Dark Hole, Exiled, D.D.W.L., Cyber Jar and Newdoria aren't enough? :eek: (Blast with Chain!)
 
SoulB. said:
mh you're right, but actually a pure zombie can only be a crash because I personally don't see the point in using Regenerating Mummis...So let's call it Ccombies-Deck XD

I was thinking about another Vampire Lord instead of the Cyber Dragon, then a Blast with Chain instead of x (dunno...maybe the Devastation Virus..maybe.). About the "Monster Destruction" thing, 2 Saku, Smashing, Vortex, Dark Hole, Exiled, D.D.W.L., Cyber Jar and Newdoria aren't enough? :eek: (Blast with Chain!)
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haha actually i was just about to say replace the Cyber Dragon for vlord...hmm...u could probably lose the vortex and add another Smashing Ground in its place..just a thought...
 
I agree with sirch.... Monster Reincarnation and Shallow Grave would be great in here, but I also agree that you should put another Creature Swap in here.... (keep Cyber Jar though)....
what to do to put these in???
my brain's not working that well right now.... ahaahhha.. but I agree you should have those in here.... but maybe your deck is built to YOUR META... so definitely work in a Creature Swap, and a Monster Reincarnation.... Take out Scapegoat and maybe Book of Moon... I think that would do it.....
 
Godess... I will receive a great deal of bashing from half the forum for saying this, I am sure, but I don't think it's wise to use more then one Vampire Lord... ^^;;

Instead, Why not play

1 x Vampire Lord
2 x Ryu Kokki
1 x Mobius the Frost Monarch

Atleast that is how MY Tribute Monster set up looks like (Though with Sacred Phoenix Of Nepthys , instead of Mobius).

Vampire Lord can be eaten alive (??? o_O) by almost any Tribute monster, and even very widely used level four monsters like Goblin Elite Attack Force and the like.

A combo I rarely use, but that does happen, is that I run:

3 x Ryu Kokki
2 x D.N.A Surgery

And change all of my opponets monsters to Warriors/Spellcasters. The strategy of that deck, was then to keep the Ryu Kokki's on the field, by any means neccesary (In other words, Solemn Judgement xP) and it worked rather well, with a few tweaks and twists...

Oh, I do have a point in this, ok, I'll get to that. Ahem.

Pure zombie is a great concept. But it is a concept that won't last long, since it's fairly easy to counter a Beatdown deck, such as basic zombies.

Try to be creative! Try idea's nobody else tried before.

There are combos such as the use of Last Will , or perhaps you could find a way to actually put a use to that Vampire Genesis or Fushio Richie. It's not a very easy task, but it CAN be done ^^. Good luck with your zombie deck building =D
 
Vampire Lord is freakin' awesome. How could you say that? Seriously, I can see where you're coming from. I run 2 Vampire Lords in my deck, but I like it's effect because your opp. will lose all their traps. That is the beauty of V. Lord. Ryu Kokki is great, but you only get its effect off against certain decks most of the time. For this deck, I would use:

Vampire Lord x2
Ryu Kokki x1
Mobius x1
Patrician of Darkness x1

I would throw in the Patrician because of the 2 Spirit Reapers, Newdoria, and Cyber Jar for a last resort. You could also put a Des Lacooda in with the Patrician to get a good draw engine. You can protect it with Patrician. Tell me what you think
 
I have the Phoenix for returning over and over again. And it REALLY does destroy my opponets traps, if compared to Vampire Lord ;P

Vampire Lord can be eaten by a mere Cyber Dragon. Besides, to many high level monsters is not good in a deck. They will clutter your hand.

Bear in mind that Pyramid Turtle cannot summon zombie monsters from your hand, so it would suck if you got stuck with all of them at your hand.

The fewer, the better. And since there are many better options then Vampire Lord, I'd say go for them instead.

As for Patrician of Darkness... I won't even go there.
 
Triztan said:
I have the Phoenix for returning over and over again. And it REALLY does destroy my opponets traps, if compared to Vampire Lord ;P

Vampire Lord can be eaten by a mere Cyber Dragon. Besides, to many high level monsters is not good in a deck. They will clutter your hand.

Bear in mind that Pyramid Turtle cannot summon zombie monsters from your hand, so it would suck if you got stuck with all of them at your hand.

The fewer, the better. And since there are many better options then Vampire Lord, I'd say go for them instead.

As for Patrician of Darkness... I won't even go there.
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I understand fully what you are saying and it make sense. I don't really understand what you have against Patrician of Darkness, other than it's overused and misused by many Zombie freaks.

Any Zombie card or Zombie support card you put into the deck really needs to be researched before putting it in. There are positives and negatives to all of them. I really like Triztan's use of the Sacred Turkey in his deck. Read his thread, he gives a very good explanation of why he uses what he does.
 
Thank you, Sirch ^^.

And I shall try to explain something, which I am not sure everyone does aswell...

When I look at my zombie deck, I count out two cards in here. Those cards are Sangan and Breaker the Magical Warrior. Why theese two? Because of all the monsters in my deck, theese are the only two that cannot be searched, thus, they are placed outside my "chain" (A metaphoristic statement inside my mind, where all monster cards in my deck are lined in a spider web, and which cards can access them)

For an example:

Giant Rat -> Pyramid Turtle/ Elemental Hero Wildheart /Giant Rat/ Exiled Force/
Injection Fairy Lily/ Mystic Swordsman LV2.

Pyramid Turtle -> Pyramid Turtle/ Ryu Kokki / Vampire Lord / Spirit Reaper

Sangan -> Giant Rat /Pyramid Turtle
Elemental Hero Wildheart /Spirit Reaper /Exiled Force/Injection Fairy Lily / D.D. Warrior Lady /Mystic Swordsman Level 2 /Hand Of Nepthys / Magician of Faith

As you see, There are chains between theese cards. Sangan fetches the turtle, which fetches the zombies. It may otherwise fetch the rat, whom fetches the earth monsters, or, if the situation is changing, fetches the turtle, and the zombies, instead.

In MY network (And bear in mind, only in my network) A Patrician of Darkness has no place in a zombie deck, especially not one which is aggro based.

Infact, I think it would do better in a Grand Ninjutsu Master lock instead, where your opponet would have to attack the Jujutsu (Ninjutsu?) master, and return to the top of the deck.

Had he been a low level monster, I believe that the Patrician would actually do rather well. However, once he is gone (Smashing Ground / Sakuretsu Armor etc, etc) Your field will once more be open.

Swedish metagame is rather aggresive, so it may not be the same as the American. All I am saying is that if someone comes to Sweden, and tries to stall with a Patrician + Reaper lock, that lock wouldn't last very long, and you would probably lose a great advantage in the process, having wasted a turtle/monster to get that Patrician.

I apologize if what I am saying doesn't make sense... I just woke up ^^;;

 
Triztan

Actually that was a great explanation. Many people forget that the meta in their area/region is not the same as someone elses will be.
In the area I am at, you can find a lot of Zombie/Skill Drain decks. To be different is alway a positive thing. I think that's why I like your deck. You have great insight in the Zombie Genre.
 
That too is a great combo. I have used those in the past to some success. It's real easy to get Skull Servants and the Kings to the Grave so you can get your max attack power.
 
well well well, I see a lot of ideas here ^^

I'm still reluctant about The Shallow Grave (cause also the opponent can summon a monster...you know it's not hard to see a Sangan or a Reaper Recycled)

Monster Reincarnation ... uhm.. maybe's better the 3rd Book of Life, don't you agree?

@ Triztan: I used to run an Insect Deck with the DNA Surgery and yes, IF the combo works the opponent is seriously damaged, but it's very hard to happen.

The Patrician of Darkness is a good zombie but keep in mind that here in Italy everybody has 3 Smashing Ground, 3 Sakuretsu and 1-2 Widespread Ruins...ok the Patrician is used for Defense BUT it longs at least 1-2 turns, then Smash and/or Cyber Dragon + Assailant or whatever (and I don't think that re-directing an attack can be enough o_O) ... anyway I can try it for a while.

here in Italy everybody has 3 Smashing Ground, 3 Sakuretsu and 1-2 Widespread Ruins
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self-quote :p
For this reason the Vampire is WONDERFUL ! the opponent wastes his cards and the Vampire keeps coming back. Ok is not a 2400 like the Phoenix BUT it's not as heavy as the Nephtys ('cause Phoenix needs also Hand of N. and an Apprentice...). It's also a 5 Stars and works great with Metamorphosis (that I wish to re-introduce). I'm thinking about taking out the MoF for the Lily (that I used to run in a past version of this deck)

The Skull Servant combo is great, but works even better in a Crash/Zombie :eek: (actually I see this combo ONLY in a Crash/Zombie)

Now: HELL ! I want to take in Meta, 2nd Swap, 3rd Book of L. and the Blast w/ Chain for the V.Lords, help T__T

EDIT: new ver.

Monsters : 17

2 Ryu Kokki
2 Vampire Lord
1 Mobius the Frost Monarch

1 Sangan
1 Drillroid
1 Newdoria
1 Cyber Jar
1 Exiled Force
2 Spirit Reaper
3 Pyramid Turtle
1 D.D. Warrior Lady
 1 Injection Fairy Lily

Spells : 17

1 Dark Hole
1 Scapegoat
2 Book of Life
1 Snatch Steal
1 Brain Control
1 Heavy Storm
1 Book of Moon
1 Pot of Avarice
1 Creature Swap
 1 Lightning Vortex <-- Swap?
1 Premature Burial
1 Smashing Ground
1 Messenger of Peace
1 Nobleman of Crossout
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Swords of Revealing Light

Traps : 7

1 Dust Tornado
1 Magic Cylinder <-- Blast w/ C.?
2 Sakuretsu Armor
1 Torrential Tribute
1 Call of the Haunted
1 Deck Devastation Virus
 
Actually, I think it's rather annoying having to rely on the hand, to summon the Phoenix. Once it's gone, it can easly be brought back from the graveyard. What's so wonderful is that, if you use Call of the Haunted / Premature Burial, and your opponets MST's or D.T's you, the phoenix will still return, because it was destroyed by an effect. Thus, it will survive for a very long time, since most decks only run 1 Bottomless Trap Hole ^^
 
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