Anti-Spell Fragrance question

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skey23

Council of Heroes
Ok, so I was looking over exiled's deck and noticed he has "Anti-Spell Fragrance" in his side deck. Well, I didn't remember what it did, so I clicked the link. When I read it, something immediately jumped out at me!

"...cannot activate them until their next turn."

What?..wait...that can't be right. ANY/ALL Spell Cards MUST be set and cannot be activated until the player's next turn.

So that means that even if I intentionally set my "Enemy Controller" or "Mystical Space Typhoon", that I CAN'T activate it until my next turn? That sucks!

Tell me it isn't so!
 
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Is everyone forgetting that Ultimate Offering doesnt say that your opponent can't use it as well??? You guys are acting as if the card is the only ruling and nothing else matters.

We already know that some card text are at the very least, "flawed". It is quite possible that when Anti-Spell Fragrance came out BACK IN 2003, there being only a grand total of 14 or so Quick-Play cards out of quite a few dozen Magic Cards, the text may have come out mis-translated or whatever else could be wrong.

This is by no means an absolute here. Sure it says Magic Cards cant be activated until your next turn. But, maybe your next turn is a loose translation for the next turn the card can be activated. You know Normal Magic Cards cannot be activated on your opponents turn. Quick-Plays can.
 
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We know that Anti is almost certainly "flawed". However, until a high judge can confirm that, it looks like rulings will have to be based on its current, strange text. I hope it is changed soon. BTW, please donate some Inferno points
-pssvr
 
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it looks like it. lol or the toon haired rabbit.

well either way, the text on it stays the same except for Ultimate Offering were it should be The controller of the card. but mind you if you look at,royal oppresion were either play can activate its effect then you know its based on card.

Ultimate Offering was mest up. but that doesnt mean that Anti spell fragrance was.

over all, it states spell cards, not specific type, and there are cards that mention specific.

Serial Spell - when you activate a NORMAL Spell card.
 
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From the horrible translations I've seen before they are cleaned up for english text, I highly doubt it's exactly the same. Anyhow, I've said my piece. I dont use Quick-Plays when I use ASF anyway, and I don't even use MST, which is almost a Staple when people use ASF, so it doesnt matter to me however it turns out. But, I'm done until we hear a definitive answer from the Judge's List.
 
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I'm lost. What's the confusion exactly? I read through the thread but I'm not quite grasping what's being said. Chalk it up to lack of sleep. :D

Why exactly would we need a ruling for Anti-Spell Fragrance's effect? The effect applys to all Spell Cards. Why would Quick-plays be any different?
 
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Dj thats what im saying but people tend to get their info from unrealiable sources.

seriously, when we all saw the spoiler from DMcomet nobody cared for Serial Spell, then the combo with CD came out and suddenly its wanted.

the card has been the same for ever. not once did it say "any spell card" it specifically stated.

now, ASF, really, its just like how it states. there is nothing that can go against its effect.

it makes quickplays into normal spells preaty much because its a spell card.
 
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Sounds to me like some poeple just don't want to lose an advantage with their Quick-Play Spell Cards. I'd say the card is as how it is worded, meaning you can't activate your Quick-Plays until your next turn.

Besides, that's what it says, plain and simple, and until an errata is eventually made (if one needs to be made) just play it as is.
 
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krazykidpsx said:
Dj thats what im saying but people tend to get their info from unrealiable sources.
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What's a "unreliable source"???? I didn't see anything posted??????


I dont think anyone is "playing" it any differently than the text states. I don't recall ever saying I for one played it any differently because I dont use that many Quick-Plays to begin with, and Anti-Spell Fragrance, when used in my Meta, is usually used by me. It isnt that big around here. I stick to Giant Trunades and Dust Tornado's when I use it.

Anyway, "Cold Wave" is the closest ruling we have to follow. Anti-Spell Fragrance is similar to that in play.

The only thing I was trying to spark was a reasonable debate. I see there are several statements for it being "as plain as the nose on your face ruling", but we should know by now that sometimes that just isnt enough.

How many times do we contnue to see the question, "Can I Trap Hole Jinzo if he is flip summoned?"
 
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krazykidpsx said:
What is a spell card?

Quick play
Normal
Equip
Continous.
Ritual
Field

thouse are spell cards.

you cannot activate spell cards untill your next turn. its very simple.

it doesnt make a statement as to except Quickplay, it says all.

remember the golden rule. "If a card in the game will go other wise in the rulebook the text on the card overrides the rulebook"

so no matter what way you think of it, a spell card is still a spell card unless its a trap or a monster card.
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I think this best explains the text of Anti-Spell Fragance IMO. =) And these are the statements/comments/rulings/explainations that I was looking for. Not sure if someone already said this earlier. @_@

Wow, that coffee really woke me up. XD <laughs as he's at college right now)
 
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See I did I did I did TAW A PUTTY TAT!

Man is anyone smiling today?

That was never a hard question. Simply a matter of whether or not someone could get a card that didn't need to be erata'd changed.

Hoorray the system worked :):):)
 
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dude, you know whats funny, I bet you the guys at UDE were laughing their behinds off at the question.

The card oviously speaks for it self. the Text has to trully be mest up in order for you not to get a ruling or how it works out of it.

By unreliable, i mean judges, that open their mouth and are wrong like 90% of the time and never correct them selfs.

yea, i feel you, we have been getting shady rulings lately, but i never thought this was anything we couldnt have solved.
 
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