hello, my opp attacks with his Cyber Dragon my Gearfried the Iron Knight. Then I activate (during the damage step) Blast with Chain targetting my gearfried. Would he receive 500 atk to destroy the dragon or would gearfried destroy the blast????
blast on gaerfried(again)
- Thread starter Lithium
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If I understand everything correctly, Gearfried would destroy Blast with Chain immediately, because it is a continuous effect. After the damage step had ended, the effect of Blast with Chain would start a new chain block, allowing the controlling player to target a card to destroy.
masterwoo0
NINJA4LIFE
Well, in order for Blast with Chain to be destroyed, it would have to be equipped to Gearfried the Iron Knight. Once it was equipped, the 500 boost should be active, since it was not negated and successfully equipped. So the attacking monster, during Damage Calculation, would be destroyed by the boost, and then gearfried's effect would trigger, and destroy Blast with Chain, and destroy a card on the field.
I dont see it as the equip card having to be there for "10 seconds" in order to destroy Cyber Dragon. There was a successful resolution to Blast with Chain with no negation, so it should boost first, then destroy second.
I dont see it as the equip card having to be there for "10 seconds" in order to destroy Cyber Dragon. There was a successful resolution to Blast with Chain with no negation, so it should boost first, then destroy second.
Dillie-O
Council of Heroes
Just to back what Woo is saying, Gearfried's effect is indeed a trigger effect albeit a rather continuous looking effect considering it happens immediately after the triggering is complete.
We had another more indepth discussion on Gearfried and his Swordsmaster counterpart in another thread that would be worth looking into if you need more info.
We had another more indepth discussion on Gearfried and his Swordsmaster counterpart in another thread that would be worth looking into if you need more info.
To clarify this for everyone's edification. As you can see from the chain point indicated by Ruling #2 for Gearfried the Iron Knight it is a trigger effect (not continuous). Thus it would not be able to Destroy Blast with Chain before Damage Calculation (anymore than Man-Eater Bug would destroy your opponent's monster before he was killed by an attack). Blast with Chain will Boost Gearfried, Gearfried will thus be victorious in Damage Calculation against Cyber Dragon. Then in the resolve effects step Gearfried will destroy Blast with Chain, this starts a new chain with Blast with Chain's destruction effect.
Someone please read the forth ruling under King Tiger Wanghu and tell me where King Tiger Wanghu is activating and resolving in the Battle Phase.
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masterwoo0
NINJA4LIFE
I dont see anything that mentions the Battle Phase in that ruling....
masterwoo0
NINJA4LIFE
His effect triggers when a Monster 1400 or less is summoned, so wouldnt he destroy any monsters that are summoned with him in the Damage Step, before it reached the beginning of the Battle Step for the newly summoned monsters that are above 1400?
Correct. When is Blast with Chain destroyed in the Damage Step? Sub-Step 5 - which is where King Tiger Wanghu can activate and resolve from being summoned through Cyber Jar.
@_@ I was trying to get you guys to think. I guess I failed at that.
@_@ I was trying to get you guys to think. I guess I failed at that.
masterwoo0
NINJA4LIFE
Well, some fish would rather swim around bait, than eat it.
I didnt realize that there was a problem with Blast with Chain resolving.
The question wasnt "when", but "if" it would be destroying Cyber Dragon, or if the Boost would.
Regardless of when Blast with Chain's second effect kicks in, Cyber Dragon is already dead.
I didnt realize that there was a problem with Blast with Chain resolving.
The question wasnt "when", but "if" it would be destroying Cyber Dragon, or if the Boost would.
Regardless of when Blast with Chain's second effect kicks in, Cyber Dragon is already dead.
The problem I saw was more in where Gearfried the Iron Knight's effect activates and where Blast with Chain is being destroyed. Both effects happen to activate and resolve in the Sub-Step 5 portion of the Damage Step.
Note: They activate and resolve seperately from one another in two completely different chain blocks.
=P
Note: They activate and resolve seperately from one another in two completely different chain blocks.
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