Cybernetic Magician

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mayo211

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I just wanted to be absolutely sure about Cybernetic Magician and his effect. Since discarding a card to the graveyard is a cost, can you use it over and over again in one turn? It doesn't say on the text that you can only use it once per turn.

Also, since it changes the attack of a card, can it be activated in the damage step? I don't think it can, but wanna be sure.

Thanks in advance for the help. I may be posting more questions that the data base can't answer for me on the new cards.
 
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Since discarding a card to the graveyard is a cost, can you use it over and over again in one turn? It doesn't say on the text that you can only use it once per turn.
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As long as you have cards to discard for the effect.

Also, since it changes the attack of a card, can it be activated in the damage step? I don't think it can, but wanna be sure.
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No, its a spell speed 1 ignition effect.
 
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And with Tribe to devastating effect a fact that made Mobius more popular. But having 4 2000 ATK goats seems to have been the point where they drew the line and said no more.
 
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I really hate to use this card again, but it seems to forever plague me.

If Megamorph is equipped to a monster whose attack has been altered by Cybernetic Magician, and the LP of the monster's controller is lower than the opposing player, does Megamorph indeed double the 2000 attack, since CM's effect states that the affected monster's attack "becomes" 2000?

And then, when Cybernetic Magician's effect ceases, Megamorph will recalculate according to the original attack (and LP, of course)?
 
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squid said:
I really hate to use this card again, but it seems to forever plague me.

If Megamorph is equipped to a monster whose attack has been altered by Cybernetic Magician, and the LP of the monster's controller is lower than the opposing player, does Megamorph indeed double the 2000 attack, since CM's effect states that the affected monster's attack "becomes" 2000?

And then, when Cybernetic Magician's effect ceases, Megamorph will recalculate according to the original attack (and LP, of course)?
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No.

Megamorph will always calculate based on the original ATK. Cybernetic Magician modifies the "current" ATK.

Equipping Megamorph to a monster will erase Cybernetic Magician's effect.
 
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And that's even after the specific wording of ruling #2?:
Since "[ycard="CRV-EN016" said:
Cybernetic Magician[/ycard]" makes the ATK "become" 2000, that is the new value. Even if the monster was equipped with an Equip Spell Card, the ATK is 2000 and is not adjusted, even if the Equip Spell Card is destroyed. (However, if equipped after the effect of "Cybernetic Magician" resolves, the ATK will be adjusted from the new level of 2000 points.)
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That would seem contradictory to your own conclusion.
 
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squid said:
And that's even after the specific wording of ruling #2?:



That would seem contradictory to your own conclusion.
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No it's not contradictory. That rule has nothing to do with equip cards from a mechanical point of view, "equip cards" is just an example. Most equip cards are a +700 or a -500 or a +X00 or similar.

Megamorph is special because it modifies original ATK, allowing it to butt-in and erase any effects that redifine the current ATK.
 
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Yes the new "Original Attack" monsters that have made everyone jump for joy that we have 1 more weird card ruling that wouldn't be apparent to anyone who hasn't been reading the rulings. We do love them so.
 
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jumping for joy isn't exactly the phrase I would use, but......:p yeah. I hate trying to explain it to people that arent on the forums all the time. Especially since Im still not solid on it myself.
 
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Cybernetic Magician doesn't make a monster's attack a new original attack of 2000. It just "sets" it at that amount. So the phrase or statement of it making a monster's attack have a new original attack is false and shouldn't be used.

In my mind I see it either as a decrease or increase of attack points since in some way it will do either of those out comes. With that being considered it will "reset" the original attack rather than just creating a new original attack like Megamorph does.

It's like how I thought that if you Limiter Removal a monster with an Equip Spell card that modifies the Attack of that monster that it would only double the original attack and not include the equipped card. (Which of course I was corrected and thank you for whoever did that!)
 
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right. That's what DaGuy was trying to get into my head. I was under the bad assumption that it did re-set the original attack. I wasn't thinking of it as how it has now been described and explained to me as being.
 
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So i assume Magician can only be used on one of the owner's Main Phases
I want this clarified b/c yesterday's tournament had a similar problem where a player asked about using the effect on the opponent's turn. I just need to make sure i was right
 
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