"Destiny Hero - Diamond Dude" vs. "The End of Anubis"

K

Kyhotae

Delusional Knight
I have gotten into this wonderful discussion with Simon on another forum and I thought I would bring the fun here.

The question is whether "The End of Anubis" would negate the effect of the Normal Spell Card sent to the Graveyard by "Destiny Hero - Diamond Dude".

After reading through the rulings and noticing that they were very specific about saying that the effect activates and not the Spell Card, it was asserted that "The End of Anubis" had no power over it because it only negates effects of Spell Cards that activate in the Graveyard. Since there's not Spell Card being activated by "Destiny Hero - Diamond Dude"s effect, then "The End of Anubis" can't negate it.

The other assertion was simply that it's a Spell Card effect and it's activating in the Graveyard, so "The End of Anubis" will negate it.

So, there you have it. Let us know how you feel. :D
 
Sort by date Sort by votes
Say nova, you said you submitted this question to the official judge list/forum (or whatever it is), right? Have they sen any sort of a reply yet? I get digests by email and still havent heard anything...
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
jpnuar1 said:
Say nova, you said you submitted this question to the official judge list/forum (or whatever it is), right? Have they sen any sort of a reply yet? I get digests by email and still havent heard anything...
Click to expand...
No reply unfortunately.

Either they don't have an answer, or don't care.

When you submit a question, they don't automatically post it like they used when they first started, they now hold the question back and reserve the right to reject it, or not respond. That's why you haven't seen anything in the digest.

Every question has to be "approved" before they answer it, and sometimes they simply contact you personally, rather than posting it on the board itself.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
That's why I stated that you really have to ask the question as if it happened in a Game Situation, and that the call you made can have a severe impact if not answered. They usually give those types of questions more priority.

If you sound like you have a good grasp on the answer yourself, then they figure (this is just my opinion) the reply isnt necessarily "important" enough to post on the Judge List, and most often enough, they just send you a personal reply.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
novastar said:
When you submit a question, they don't automatically post it like they used when they first started, they now hold the question back and reserve the right to reject it, or not respond. That's why you haven't seen anything in the digest.

Every question has to be "approved" before they answer it, and sometimes they simply contact you personally, rather than posting it on the board itself.
Click to expand...
Well, as a level 1 judge, I know that much, so I was checking in to see if you got a direct response...
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Maruno said:
Kyhotae and the rest of us, or so it seems.
Click to expand...
Awfully presumptuous...
There have been plenty of others that have agreed that "End of Anubis" should have no power over the effect that "Destiny Hero - Diamond Dude" activates from the Graveyard. :p

lol
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Kyhotae said:
Awfully presumptuous...
There have been plenty of others that have agreed that "End of Anubis" should have no power over the effect that "Destiny Hero - Diamond Dude" activates from the Graveyard. :p

lol
Click to expand...
Doesnt mean either group is right or wrong. Just means we both cant be correct, and one group will have to rethink what an effect is as related to card activation, effect activation, and Graveyard presence, as well as, how to properly translate The End of Anubis' effect "over" the Graveyard.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
masterwoo0 said:
That's why I stated that you really have to ask the question as if it happened in a Game Situation, and that the call you made can have a severe impact if not answered. They usually give those types of questions more priority.

If you sound like you have a good grasp on the answer yourself, then they figure (this is just my opinion) the reply isnt necessarily "important" enough to post on the Judge List, and most often enough, they just send you a personal reply.
Click to expand...

I certainly hope this isn't the case. There are a couple of other judges and myself who regularly write in seemingly "uneducated" questions knowing that a card is commonly misunderstood in hopes that the answer will be stated publicly so that it stops being misunderstood. While we already know the answer and it may appear that one of the L2-L3s doesn't know their rear from a hot rock, it's not always a matter of knowledge for self gain but rather an attempt to help the community gain a better grasp.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
John Danker said:
I certainly hope this isn't the case. There are a couple of other judges and myself who regularly write in seemingly "uneducated" questions knowing that a card is commonly misunderstood in hopes that the answer will be stated publicly so that it stops being misunderstood. While we already know the answer and it may appear that one of the L2-L3s doesn't know their rear from a hot rock, it's not always a matter of knowledge for self gain but rather an attempt to help the community gain a better grasp.
Click to expand...
Yeah... I recently asked a question about Double Dude's effect, to make sure that the Double Dude Token's will not be considered "Destiny Hero" Monsters, and I received a personal reply.

I figured it would be helpful knowledge when it came to Special Summoning Dogma, so there would be no confusion when and if someone tries to use a Token as a D-Hero Tribute to get out Dogma.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
masterwoo0 said:
That's why I stated that you really have to ask the question as if it happened in a Game Situation, and that the call you made can have a severe impact if not answered. They usually give those types of questions more priority.

If you sound like you have a good grasp on the answer yourself, then they figure (this is just my opinion) the reply isnt necessarily "important" enough to post on the Judge List, and most often enough, they just send you a personal reply.
Click to expand...
Well i'm not there so i won't judge it, but as an observation, it almost seems like we are going somewhat back to the days where you would email them and pray for a response.

I'll wholeheartly admit, having been around since the Demo Team days, that the system has improved alot, but it seems that they have definately taken some steps backward here.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
The thing is that the game is becoming much more interactive than it always has been, the involvement of all areas in the battle field has boosted up much more complex scenarios, im willing to think that UDE is just really clearing things up so there's no clashing with other already established rules or future ones for that matter.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
masterwoo0 said:
Doesnt mean either group is right or wrong. Just means we both cant be correct, and one group will have to rethink what an effect is as related to card activation, effect activation, and Graveyard presence, as well as, how to properly translate The End of Anubis' effect "over" the Graveyard.
Click to expand...
This is also kind of presumptuous. What makes you think that I'll have to rethink anything? You only know what I've posted, not everything that I think. I can see it from both sides, which is why I asked the question in the first place.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Kyhotae said:
masterwoo0 said:
Doesnt mean either group is right or wrong. Just means we both cant be correct, and one group will have to rethink what an effect is as related to card activation, effect activation, and Graveyard presence, as well as, how to properly translate The End of Anubis' effect "over" the Graveyard.
Click to expand...
This is also kind of presumptuous. What makes you think that I'll have to rethink anything? You only know what I've posted, not everything that I think. I can see it from both sides, which is why I asked the question in the first place.
Click to expand...
Where on Middle Earth did masterwoo0 suggest you would have to rethink things? Now that's presumptuous.

And you'll find many of us can see anything from both sides of any given argument. Many of us come to conclusions based on evidence given and knowledge held. Some people just happen to interpret things differently to others. You're not unique in that respect, you know.

Indeed, for this situation, there's no way for anyone to have an opinion other than to have examined evidence and past similar cases, and referred to their own knowledge. That is, looking from both sides of the argument.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
I'm not sure where Middle Earth is, but he suggested it in the post I quoted. Maybe he wasn't talking about me specifically, but either way, it's a little presumptuous to decide what either group of people is going to have to do if we ever find out the way UDE/Konami would rule this.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Well, not at all, actually. Both sides cannot be right. Therefore one side is wrong, and will have to accept this and switch their views to the correct one (as decided by UDE/Konami, of course).

Oh, and from what I re-read for the seventh time, masterwoo0 seriously did not imply you were in the wrong. You're reading so much into it it's unbelievable.
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Like I said, he's presuming to know what an entire group of people is going to have to do. He doesn't even know what they're thinking in the first place, he has no idea what, or if, they'll have to change in their thinking.

I didn't say that he was talking about me. I only said that he doesn't know what I'm thinking, because I'm the only one that knows what I'm thinking. I can't speak for the rest of the people he's talking about because I'm not them. I can only speak for myself. Which is what I did...
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
Kyhotae said:
Like I said, he's presuming to know what an entire group of people is going to have to do. He doesn't even know what they're thinking in the first place, he has no idea what, or if, they'll have to change in their thinking.

I didn't say that he was talking about me. I only said that he doesn't know what I'm thinking, because I'm the only one that knows what I'm thinking. I can't speak for the rest of the people he's talking about because I'm not them. I can only speak for myself. Which is what I did...
Click to expand...

And he was only stating that, "Of the people who believe, or hold forth in conversation or debate, that one side is the correct one. The reason for that belief, or the logic that led them to postulate that their chosen side was the correct way to analyze the situation, will need to have the logical conclusions examined in light of further information if and when obtained from Konami. This is not to say that said individual may not have understanding of both sides of the issue. Yet if they are debating the side that is disproven, at that point, they must either conform the logical steps that allowed belief in the previous conclusion to this newly presented information, or they must claim they were just playing devil's advocate and actually knew the correct ruling all along." (Which nobody believes, especially when the debate has been exhaustingly long and stubbornly adhered to, but if that makes the party proven incorrect sleep better...)

Honestly, you'd think we needed legal disclaimers on everything we post so as not to offend. :)
 
Upvote 0 Downvote
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top