Disturbing "item" on eBay ...
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squid said:
Exactly. We all choose to use it (for those that use CC) for whatever reasons. That has an impact on the game. One person justifies it, then another, and another, and so on and so on. However, in order to get to that part we need the money and resources to have said Deck in the making. Anyone can fandango a great deal on eBay if they wanted to. But given how cards are expensive now, it is hard for the general players without their parents credit card and money to do it for them.
Remember when cards you knew were super cheap before are now costing $20, $30, $40 on eBay? How is Joe Teen going to afford that without any money or credit card of their own? It all comes down to who has the best cards and the most money to buy those cards that will have a better shot at winning. All this auction does is show people that the entire purpose of playing YGO is to be like Emon. Win a SJC. Then sell out like everyone else does. FANTASTIC!
I guess you just don't circulate with the people I do. Most folks I know can get the cards they need through bulk trading and friends generosity.Tiso said:
Digital Jedi said:
Digital you have no idea how cheap I got cards and how many cards I had. I cannot stress this enough that my YGO collection was stuff to be feared off. Over a dozen Cyber Dragons, over 15+ Widespread Ruins, and so on. I would get them on eBay as singles and boxes for cheap. But that is not the point. I know people who cannot even buy on eBay without a credit card or money of their own unless their parents allowed them to. For those who do not have such connections are going to be at a disadvantage. Just because you had some inside deals or whatever, does not mean everyone else was able to do the same. Just how bad the game really is. A rich man's game. Those with deep pockets will survive.
Well, I wasn't exactly reffering to people who use eBay and online resources. I was speaking of people who get what they need through friends and trade the occasional pulls for the things they need. I think there is a hugh difference between a player witha blinged out binder and player who has everything they need to do what they need to do. You need to be rich to do one, not the other.
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I certainly see your points...however, we DO have to remember that this game wasn't created for the purpose of entertaining us and giving the children of the world something creative to do...to learn good sportsmanship, and to encourage learning math, vocabulary, etc.....though those things CAN and SHOULD be encourged and the game has potential to do so.
The game was created in hopes of making a profit. Due to this I'm afraid the game (and likely just about any game that comes out) will do what it can to pull as much cash out of people's pockets as they can...that's the nature of business.
While many of us use this game as entertainment, while we make friends and use it as a pastime for parent / child relationships, while there are many good things that come of this game....it is and always will be originated and continue to be a profit oriented venture for the creators and distributors of the game....we should expect no less.
The game was created in hopes of making a profit. Due to this I'm afraid the game (and likely just about any game that comes out) will do what it can to pull as much cash out of people's pockets as they can...that's the nature of business.
While many of us use this game as entertainment, while we make friends and use it as a pastime for parent / child relationships, while there are many good things that come of this game....it is and always will be originated and continue to be a profit oriented venture for the creators and distributors of the game....we should expect no less.
Funny, but I can't really view this game as a "rich man's" game when the majority of players I know are, well, lower middle class. Most of the guys I play with are getting to the shop on the bus, or by way of hitching a ride with friends. Not talking about the kids here, but the guys who could probably be driving by now. There are a few guys who have the big binders and the big boxes of rares. But these guys are either, really good at trading, or are just "card hustlers" who mange to get cards at any and all costs. I'm not saying that's a noble or legitimate way to get cards. What I'm saying is that, aside from the nefarious ones, the majority of players I've met are in the same boat I am. I don't trade online but once in a blue moon, when I do it isn't for anything spectacular. I get what I really need through my friends and through a cycle of goodwill that we've generated. We're a pretty ethnically diverse bunch, too. Hispanic, black, Asian, caucasian and various mixtures thereof. But we have a nice circuit going where when people really need something, they can get someway, somehow. No wealthy players in my area to speak of.
Ya know though. You really can't blame them for selling these cards like 4000 bucks or something or "whoring" themselves for some 30min phone calls for money.
Why? Cause these players are sponsored by these companies. Ya think these people get the airplane ride, hotel bill, food, etc. all for free? No, the company pays for them. So they are expected to win. And ya think these companies sponsor these kids for free? No, it cost them alot of money to do so? And if you spend money, they want profit. So it makes sense that they'll auction the prize in Ebay or some other way to make "profit" of sending these kid YGO player teams in these tournaments. You want them to spend money and just go broke?
Why? Cause these players are sponsored by these companies. Ya think these people get the airplane ride, hotel bill, food, etc. all for free? No, the company pays for them. So they are expected to win. And ya think these companies sponsor these kids for free? No, it cost them alot of money to do so? And if you spend money, they want profit. So it makes sense that they'll auction the prize in Ebay or some other way to make "profit" of sending these kid YGO player teams in these tournaments. You want them to spend money and just go broke?
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drzero7 said:
To a large degree, I agree. Generally, those companies sponsoring the teams are themselves small businesses, and cannot afford to write off that level of expenditure in the process of throwaway advertising, without some level of return. Consider team comic odessey- sponsored by the shop comic odessey- and now everyone knows of that shop. (of course, whether anyone actually goes there is another thing... but I dont have sufficient knowledge to comment on this).
At the moment, everything is still on the small side with sponsored teams. I dont think that it will get to the point when 'big business' steps in, and 'Team Enron' or the 'Marine Corp Team' gets involved, but the possibility is always there.
I will admit that I am against the concept of team play, and organised teams who will tactically 'drop' in favour of a team member, but them I come from a culture where games are all about the players, rather than the coaches. Example? Watch the Soccer world cup and see how often the coaches call time outs to discuss tactics, compared to even a high school football game... I do firmly believe that team tactics in yugioh might lead the game to higher national recognition, but that they wreck the individual nature of the game, and penalise those who will not/can not play with a team
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thats creepy.... on another note, I didnt know who he was until I read thatdjp952 said:
Yeah, I never really heard of him either. SJC and/or Nationals champions don't really fall into my "celebrities" list category. Maybe someday, when someone takes originality more seriously and wins with it. But for now, just another guy who can win playing Chaos. Big accomplishment.
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