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Tiso said:
Why would Spiritalism not work if your opponent used it? You are not negating the card or anything. I already found my ways to use the card to most efficient way. Either I am going to have a Desert Sunlight face-down and set my Tornado Bird, then activate Desert Sunlight to flip it over and return my 2 Treasure Maps on the field, this drawing 4 cards and discarding 2 or it will be through Giant Trunade and Byser Shock.
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Byser Shock, Tornado Bird and Giant Trunade work fine. Spiritualism won't work because the effect specifically states that you can't negate the activation or the effect and activating a non-continuous Trap would be preventing the effect of Spiritualism from being able to resolve as the Trap would no longer be eligible to be returned.
 
I think I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one Anthony. I don't see any reason why the opponent wouldn't be able to chain the targeted card. As stated eariler, chaining is not negating, so all of the restrictions placed upon "Spiritualism" are still met.
 
Tiso said:
The reason cards like Widespread Ruin got bumped up to being CC is because duelists are sheep. They go to metagame, leave their brains in the cookie jar, and swallow any and everything the majority tells them to use. Widespread Ruin was a $2-$3 card tops on eBay months ago. It goes for over $25-$30. People like me had to stop using Widespread Ruin because it became CC and I was using that card way before any noticed it was actually good. We will never have Yu-Gi-Oh! like the show where each person has a different Deck than the rest because most are intent on just dueling to win (because winning is fun and losing is not fun and you can only win by being a CC). Nevermind you could win if you actually stuck with the theme instead of figuring ways to fit enough CC cards in a Deck to make some sort of theme.

If I was going to use Treasure Map, it be in my Guardian Deck right now that I am using if I could find a way to fit 2 of them in without destroying the flow of that Deck. I would use it in a Chazz Princeten Deck or a Heavy Slump type of Deck. How many cards do you think you will get your opponent to have in their hand when you use Giant Trunade? Then using that Sasuke Samurai #3 that allows your oppone to draw until their hand is 7. The second they draw that 8th card, game over man, game over.



Is it not that there is not enough effective alternatives, it is the fact that people try to fit as many CC cards in their Decks that any theme that could be made cannot. Why would I need to put Heavy Storm in my Elemental Hero Deck when I got Cyclone Boomerang and soon to be R - Right Justice? Why do I need to use Smashing Ground over Fissure? There are cards out there to use as alternatives, just nobody bothers to care and give them a chance. Hero Barrier must stink, and yet it has chainability but that will never go further than that since people want monsters to die from a Sakuretsu Armor. The second we get Cyber Phoenix Widespread Ruin is going to be more in demand.
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Dot. Dot. Dot. You try those cards over the other ones and see. I have and its not pretty. Again, it isn't about people being CC-ed its about using the most efficient and effective cards, if everyone uses them, oh wells. It feels like what you are saying is that since a card is popular lets look for alternatives and use them because they are not as popular which in my opinion is dumb (no offense).
 
Tiso said:
Do not get me started on weird Decks. I think the last coolest weird Deck I had to go against was one abusing Blade Rabbit. I was laughing so hard because this little rabbit was smoking my kipper like it was nothing. Then I just had this insane duel on YVD the other night with a Alexis Rhodes duelist using her Deck. Never I would have used cards the way she did in that combination and this was basically a battle between Misawa and Alexis. Truly cool stuff when you think outside of the cookie-jar and give cards a chance. Incidently I am eating rasin cookie.
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...so guess what its the player not the cards...Jae smoked me pretty hard on YVD once with his Exodia Chaos deck back during Chaos high, guess what again, its the player not the card...its still the only deck to this date that I really don't have an idea to play against short of lucking out on the Kycoos.
 
skey23 said:
I think I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this one Anthony. I don't see any reason why the opponent wouldn't be able to chain the targeted card. As stated eariler, chaining is not negating, so all of the restrictions placed upon "Spiritualism" are still met.
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Yeah that is the way I see it. I think people got confused and just assumed that since it says you cannot negate its activation or effect that you cannot chain to the activation or even activate the targeted card. I see no reason not to.
 
Judicator said:
Dot. Dot. Dot. You try those cards over the other ones and see. I have and its not pretty. Again, it isn't about people being CC-ed its about using the most efficient and effective cards, if everyone uses them, oh wells. It feels like what you are saying is that since a card is popular lets look for alternatives and use them because they are not as popular which in my opinion is dumb (no offense).
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Did you honestly give it a shot or you did just half attempt it? You cannot just assume to win by doing it that way. It is not pretty? Maybe you just do not duel well. If I posted the Deck I use right now I guarantee people will question what am I thinking and yet my Deck wins, my Deck loses. It depends on the duelist, the cards, and just how the duel goes. No one can win all the time.

Judicator said:
...so guess what its the player not the cards...Jae smoked me pretty hard on YVD once with his Exodia Chaos deck back during Chaos high, guess what again, its the player not the card...its still the only deck to this date that I really don't have an idea to play against short of lucking out on the Kycoos.
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It was a CHAOS Deck. Where is the mystery that he beat you? It does not matter if he put Exodia in it or not, he used a CC Deck that was at its prime. As I said before, you cannot expect to beat every Deck nor can you expect to lose to every Deck because you think it is l33t. Too many factors determine victory or defeat. All I see is you making excuses as to why you will not use said cards because you lost badly. Who fault is that? Learn to adapt.
 
Simon you are correct. Sorry about the misinterpretation. I rarely use Spiritualism and was going off of something told to me very early on about not being able to chain Waboku to it because then it wouldn't return.

I just did a search through the old Netrep files and it was addressed in a Ring of Destruction question back in 2004.

Again I apologize for the incorrect statement. Spiritualism would be a valid card to chain Treasure Map to.

(Now all we have to do is get more people to use Spiritualism.) :)
 
anthonyj said:
Simon you are correct. Sorry about the misinterpretation. I rarely use Spiritualism and was going off of something told to me very early on about not being able to chain Waboku to it because then it wouldn't return.

I just did a search through the old Netrepâ„¢ files and it was addressed in a Ring of Destruction question back in 2004.

Again I apologize for the incorrect statement. Spiritualism would be a valid card to chain Treasure Map to.

(Now all we have to do is get more people to use Spiritualism.) :)
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Yeah, but I do not see which Deck would force people to do that. Right now I rather use Nobleman of Extermination (which I do not) to punish those Sakuretsu Armor and Widespread Ruin users. If Spiritualism did not target just your opponent's card we could have something to work with.
 
Tiso said:
Did you honestly give it a shot or you did just half attempt it? You cannot just assume to win by doing it that way. It is not pretty? Maybe you just do not duel well. If I posted the Deck I use right now I guarantee people will question what am I thinking and yet my Deck wins, my Deck loses. It depends on the duelist, the cards, and just how the duel goes. No one can win all the time.



It was a CHAOS Deck. Where is the mystery that he beat you? It does not matter if he put Exodia in it or not, he used a CC Deck that was at its prime. As I said before, you cannot expect to beat every Deck nor can you expect to lose to every Deck because you think it is l33t. Too many factors determine victory or defeat. All I see is you making excuses as to why you will not use said cards because you lost badly. Who fault is that? Learn to adapt.
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ok you obviously missed my point, i did test those cards fully. and as for Jae, the mystery wasn't the fact it was chaos its fact he pressured with chaos while fetching the pieces when he can, out of the 7 games we played 5 of them were from exodia and 2 were chaos pressure kills. It didn't play like normal chaos and its not like i can't break a chaos since thats all I ran into at regionals that year. Also all this deck talk makes me want to play you, I would actually like to see your decks in action since they do seem competitive on paper. Frankly I don't care what my opponent was thinking when they made a deck, if they stuck a card in there and they know why they stuck it in there thats all that matters and to me thats what makes a deck good or bad.
 
itll be a bit hard, but it could work. lol

right now im listening to some Podcasts for Pro tour Honolulu. lol which is preaty fun considering everything is like "oh yea they are using this" or "oh yea they are using that" wished yugi could get some originality points :(

but yea you know what it is too, if you are scared to play somebody you will mostlikely lose becuase you will do mistakes during your games.

its not like the person is godly maybe they have a bit more skill or not but over all a person scaring you for a win is kinda sad.
 
Yeah you put yourself in the mindset that you will lose if you think you are going to lose. You cannot worry what your opponent is going to play and what not. I see a lot of people not attack because they are afraid that the card is most likely a Sakuretsu Armor.
 
Judicator said:
ok you obviously missed my point, i did test those cards fully. and as for Jae, the mystery wasn't the fact it was chaos its fact he pressured with chaos while fetching the pieces when he can, out of the 7 games we played 5 of them were from exodia and 2 were chaos pressure kills. It didn't play like normal chaos and its not like i can't break a chaos since thats all I ran into at regionals that year. Also all this deck talk makes me want to play you, I would actually like to see your decks in action since they do seem competitive on paper. Frankly I don't care what my opponent was thinking when they made a deck, if they stuck a card in there and they know why they stuck it in there thats all that matters and to me thats what makes a deck good or bad.
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Well if you want to duel me just let me know. I am ready on YVD whenever it suits you.
 
yea dude, you have no idea how scared ive been getting when i play magic, all becuase I know my opponent has about 12 destruction cards and i know that if their lucky 12 turns straight they will have atleast 1 of them.

its scarry. but for yugi, just attack thats how i see it, you cant always fall for a trick like that, but when it counts is when you see the face expression in your opponent that says "Summon out a new creature and see what happens" thens when you stick with what works and build up your hand for future responce and keep attacking with what you got on the board. :D
 
Tiso said:
Wait Blockman is a ROCK-Type. I use a Rock-Type Deck for my Magnet Warrior Deck. Connection possible.
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Yes, there are many connections possible with these cards.

1.)Blockman is great stall card, if used correctly.

2.)Of course it would work predominantly work well in Rock-type deck.

3.)The other connection is that these cards along with the Gadget Soldiers (only in the OCG, and present a lot in the OCG as well), and Valkyrion and its pieces were played in the Ceremonial Battle by Yugi Motou.
 
game 1 of the Tiso Vs. Judicator came down to a loss of a good hand.

Game 2 and 3 went to Judicator from tiso wasting resources.

good games. all 3 of them. :D
 
Jud is telling me that I LUCKED out because of Morphing Jar. I do not like excuses like that. I played with what I had perfectly. You cannot win them all, and this was just a match, and just a game. I am content with how it ended. Good games though, real good.
 
Tiso said:
Jud is telling me that I LUCKED out because of Morphing Jar. I do not like excuses like that. I played with what I had perfectly. You cannot win them all, and this was just a match, and just a game. I am content with how it ended. Good games though, real good.
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Ok i am saying you lucked out on mjar cause of what you took out with jar not because you played jar, you took out hole, snatch, storm when it was 5v0 hand, if you had seen my hand before the jar play then yes it was good play by you, but you didn't and you just lucked on getting all 3 of my clinchers. By the way, i traded lifepoint for hand that game if you didnt notice and that jar really killed what i had worked to setup. Now if you think you outplayed me that game, ask krazy if you really outplayed or not.
Now I like how you go on talking about oh i used them perfectly for one game, then what happened the other 2 games? Vanishing on a MST targteting a Cursed on the first turn? What happened to all that "skillzs"? Seriously man changed your atittude, you didnt outplay, I miscalculated, but its a good play none the less, you shouldn't have gained as much as you did though from that mjar.
 
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