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Once again we have silly rulings. Here's what I've spotted:

Volcanic Shell
FOTB-EN009 (Effect Monster)
[Once per turn, while this card is in the Graveyard, you can pay 500 Life Points to add 1 "Volcanic Shell" from your Deck to your hand.]

You cannot activate this card's effect if you have no "Volcanic Shells" in your Deck.
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See also The Agent of Creation - Venus. Consistent, but silly.


Sky Scourge Norleras
FOTB-EN022 (Effect Monster)
[This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by removing from play 1 LIGHT Fairy-Type monster and 3 DARK Fiend-Type monsters in your Graveyard. You can pay 1000 Life Points to send all cards on the field and in both players' hands to the Graveyard, then you draw 1 card.]

Sending all cards on the field and in both players' hands to the Graveyard and drawing one card are resolved as part of the same Chain Link, and are considered to occur simultaneously (even though the card is drawn after sending cards to the Graveyard). So a card like "Peten the Dark Clown" would not miss the timing even though a card is drawn.
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Also looks silly, because of the "then draw...". We all know Appropriate cannot be activated to Graceful Charity (also note the "then discard"), and so it should be possible for Peten to miss his timing on the same grounds.


Blaze Accelerator
FOTB-EN040 (Continuous Spell)
[You can send 1 Pyro-Type monster with 500 or less ATK from your hand to the Graveyard to destroy 1 monster your opponent controls, but you cannot declare an attack during this turn if you do.]

Sending 1 Pyro-Type monster with 500 or less ATK to the Graveyard is part of this card's effect. It is not a cost.
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Not a silly ruling, but silly wording. "You can... to..." implies a cost. "Send... and inflict..." makes more sense. Same with Tri-Blaze Accelerator.


Field Barrier
FOTB-EN042 (Field Spell)
[Field Spell Cards cannot be destroyed. Also, a new Field Spell Card cannot be activated. You can only control 1 face-up "Field Barrier" at a time.]
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It's a Continuous Spell Card, not a Field Spell Card. Just a typo there. Yes, even a silly typo. Lots of silly.
 
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Maruno said:
Also looks silly, because of the "then draw...". We all know Appropriate cannot be activated to Graceful Charity (also note the "then discard"), and so it should be possible for Peten to miss his timing on the same grounds.
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You can't activate Appropriate on Graceful Charity because it is not solely an effect that "draws". It draws a card(s), then discards. That is not like Pot of Greed.

As for Peten, I really don't understand where you are going with this one, since Peten doesnt miss his timing with Graceful Charity either.
 
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I figured that Blaze Accelerator is ruled like that because it's a Continuous Spell, so choosing to activate the ability is what puts it on the chain, then on resolution you'd send the monster to the graveyard and yadda yadda yadda. Smarter people than me will probably condradict this though :)
 
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masterwoo0 said:
You can't activate Appropriate on Graceful Charity because it is not solely an effect that "draws". It draws a card(s), then discards. That is not like Pot of Greed.

As for Peten, I really don't understand where you are going with this one, since Peten doesnt miss his timing with Graceful Charity either.
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He means that with this card, after you send them to the grave you draw a card, so in most (if not all) other cases Peten misses his timing.
 
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Volcanic Scattershot

FOTB-EN010 (Effect Monster)

[When this card is sent to the Graveyard, inflict 500 damage to your opponent. If this card is sent to the Graveyard for the effect of a "Blaze Accelerator" card, you can send 2 "Volcanic Scattershots" from your hand / Deck to the Graveyard to destroy all monsters your opponent controls.]

If this card is sent to the Graveyard for the effect of a "Blaze Accelerator" card, its effect to inflict 500 damage to your opponent does not activate.

The effect "inflict 500 damage to your opponent." of other "Volcanic Scattershot" cards sent to the Graveyard as a cost to activate the effect of this card will activate. Their effects will go on a new Chain after the resolution of "Blaze Accelerator" or "Tri-Blaze Accelerator."
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Anyone want to TRY and explain that ruling, when it seems to be lacking any logic and common sense concerning the card itself...
 
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A "Field Barrier" ruling also implies that you can chain "Dust Tornado" to the even of a new Field Spell card being placed on the field that attempts to destroy an already face-up Field Spell while "Field Barrier" and "Imperior Order is on the field, to destroy order, and save your field, while destroying the one they try to play.
 
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DH2K4 said:
Anyone want to TRY and explain that ruling, when it seems to be lacking any logic and common sense concerning the card itself...
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The Japanese text reads something like:

When this card is sent to the Graveyard, inflict 500 damage to your opponent; or, if this card is sent to the Graveyard for the effect of a "Blaze Accelerator" card, you can send 2 "Volcanic Scattershots" from your hand / Deck to the Graveyard to destroy all monsters your opponent controls.
 
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Actually there was no "or" in the translations I saw. However, the rulings are consistant with the Japanese rulings (for a change).

So if you send Volcanic Scattershot to the Graveyard for the effect of Blaze Accelerator, and then send the other 2 there as well for the Raigeki effect, you will inflict 1000 damage (for the other 2), Raigeki the opponent's field, and skip your battle phase.

Note if you send Volcanic Scattershot to the Graveyard for the effect of Tri-Blaze Accelerator, and then send the other 2 there as well, you will inflict 1500 damage (1000 for the other 2 and 500 for the TBA effect) as well as the Raigeki effect.
 
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Well, there's DMComet's translation:

When this card is send to Graveyard, deal 500 damages to opponent. However if this card is send to Graveyard by the effect of a [Blaze Cannon] card, by sending 2 [Volcanic Buckshoot] from your hand and/or deck to Graveyard, destroy all monsters on opponent's field.

The "However" means that the second sentence replaces the first.
 
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Backs to the Wall FOTB-EN052 (Normal Trap)
[Pay Life Points so that you only have 100 left. Special Summon as many "Six Samurai" monsters from your Graveyard as possible. You cannot Special Summon more than 1 monster with the same name, or a monster that has the same name as a monster you already control.]

You cannot activate this card if your Life Points are exactly 100 or less than 100.

You cannot activate this card if there are no "Six Samurai" monsters in your Graveyard.

So much for any crazy "Reversal Quiz" ideas. Although, Six Samurai Quiz?
 
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Maruno said:
It's a Continuous Spell Card, not a Field Spell Card. Just a typo there. Yes, even a silly typo. Lots of silly.
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Actually, I think you misunderstood Field Barrier. Field Barrier is a continuous spell that protects your field spell. Kind of like a magic reflector for your field spell, but better. In my opinion, a must in decks that heavily rely on their respective field card. If you can find the room.
 
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Also, why do the Crystial Beast get thier effects if attacked face down and not when destroyed face down? Others such as DD Survivor do not with Macro Cosmos active. Also, Sangon gets his effect if sent to the GY while face down. The C Beasts only say if DESTROYED! Just an odity to me.
 
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