Horus Lv 6 vs Dark Necrofear

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Easy question...i think...

SCENARIO:

Player A has Horus Lv 6
Player B has Dark Necrofear
Player A use Smashing Ground and destroy Dark Necrofear

End Phase
Dark Necrofear equip Horus Lv 6

Is Horus Lv 6 unaffected by the effect of Dark Necrofear?
 
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skey23 said:
Ooooh...wait! What about 'the opponent of the controller of the last effect to resolve' is the one that gets Priority? If that holds true, then your scenario is indeed incorrect..lol.
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I thought we aGreed (not the card!) on that other topic that priority is not passed from one player to the other, but rather there's a response window at the end of each chain.
 
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Cropz said:
I thought we aGreed (not the card!) on that other topic that priority is not passed from one player to the other, but rather there's a response window at the end of each chain.
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If Priority is just the ability of 'a player' to respond 1st to an event, then it most certainly does get passed back and forth. Because you can't do anything unless you've been given the 'token' that allows you to do something.
 
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Cropz said:
I meant... at the end of a chain, priority is retained by the Turn Player, not passed to the opponent.
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I can see logic that it either is retained by the turn player, or is retained by whoever it was last passed to before resolution. I cannot see the logic that it is sent to TOOTCOTLETR.
 
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Oh God... here we go again.
First: The TOOTCOTLETR gains priority is not completely accepted. I am in the group that believes priority always go to TP after a chain resolves. But this will not end until an official answer. Can't someone ask Curtis or Kevin about this matter? I've tried to obtain an answer of Curtis but get no response.

Second: let's say it's my turn, I have 2 face-up Lava Golems, my op has two of my monsters with Snatch (one snatch gained via Exchange- well, not a quite possible scenario, but still valid lol). That's 4 mandatory effects that must be resolved at the SB. So, what happen in this case is: TP- pass; NTP- pass; TP must resolve one of LG.
Despite op has 2 mandatory effects to resolve, I will have to resolve the other LG and die if I have 2000 LP or less? This doesn't seem right or fair. And it's only valid if the TOOTCOTLETR theory is NOT true.

Third: And what if an optional effect is throwed in the mix (Yomi Frog, for example)?

Last: All effects resolve in separate chains in the Stand By Phase? It's new to me.

Oh, I was almost forgeting: In the original Thread case (LV 6 and Necrofear): End phase is reached, LV 6 (TP monster) has an optional effect and Necrofear a mandatory (I believe). What happens?
 
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I agree with EVERYTHING you've said, Doctor. Unfortunately, I think I'm the only person alive who does.

Oh, I was almost forgeting: In the original Thread case (LV 6 and Necrofear): End phase is reached, LV 6 (TP monster) has an optional effect and Necrofear a mandatory (I believe). What happens?
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They are resolved as though they were mandatory, except that the LV6 effect isn't. :p :confused: Well, just apply your logic used above, and simply replace where LV6's must activate with where LV6's effect MAY activate, and you've got it. The logic used in your example with two Lava and two Snatch was perfect. Apply that to this situation, and there you go.
 
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Dr Sin said:
Oh, I was almost forgeting: In the original Thread case (LV 6 and Necrofear): End phase is reached, LV 6 (TP monster) has an optional effect and Necrofear a mandatory (I believe). What happens?
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DaGuy answered this back on post #39.
 
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Dr Sin said:
Second: let's say it's my turn, I have 2 face-up Lava Golems, my op has two of my monsters with Snatch (one snatch gained via Exchange- well, not a quite possible scenario, but still valid lol). That's 4 mandatory effects that must be resolved at the SB. So, what happen in this case is: TP- pass; NTP- pass; TP must resolve one of LG.
Despite op has 2 mandatory effects to resolve, I will have to resolve the other LG and die if I have 2000 LP or less? This doesn't seem right or fair. And it's only valid if the TOOTCOTLETR theory is NOT true.

Third: And what if an optional effect is throwed in the mix (Yomi Frog, for example)?

Last: All effects resolve in separate chains in the Stand By Phase? It's new to me.

Oh, I was almost forgeting: In the original Thread case (LV 6 and Necrofear): End phase is reached, LV 6 (TP monster) has an optional effect and Necrofear a mandatory (I believe). What happens?
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when resolving effects during the Standby/End Phases, treat the effects as "Normal Spells" and the Phase as a "Main Phase", and you'll get the picture (assume, of course, the opponent can also activate Normal Spells during your turn).

when resolving effects during the Standby/End Phases being Mandatory/Optional doesn't matter, the players controlling the effects can resolve them in any order they desire.

also, yes, the effects resolve in separate chains, as you can't chain Speed 1 effects to one another and they are not trying to activate at the same time to form a SEGOC.
 
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Cropz had it right....and then I'll refer to Anthonyj's post back on post #21....

anthonyj said:
The Turn Player can choose to resolve effects they control or may pass and allow the Non-Turn Player the chance to resolve effects that they control. Once the Non-Turn Player passes back the Turn Player must now resolve any other outstanding effects and then the Non-Turn Player will have to do the same. This question has been answered many times, Strike Ninja/IMT vs. Dark Necrofear was one occurrence I recall.
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skey23 said:
Ok, so what about the 'opponent of the controller of the last effect to resolve' thing?
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There was a change of phases from MP2 to end phase. The last thing to resolve was the change of phases....or perhaps I'm misunderstanding where you're going with this.
 
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John Danker said:
There was a change of phases from MP2 to end phase. The last thing to resolve was the change of phases....or perhaps I'm misunderstanding where you're going with this.
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I think I misunderstood what you were initially responding to when you said "cropz has it right". I completely missed that cropz had posted directly above you..lol.

I thought you were stating his scenario from post #25 was correct. So I was asking about the 'opponent of the controller of the last effect to resolve' aspect again since I questioned his scenario earlier and posted my 'counter' scenario on post #32.
 
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