Insect Knight FET-EN004

StRiKe_NiNjA · Apr 1, 2005

Insect Knight FET-EN004

We can longer ignore these creatures. Slowly and slowly, insect types are beggining to show up in numbers, with more support. Arsenal Bug, Insect Knight, Pinch Hopper, Ultimate Insect, etc. are all great examples of the civilaztion of Insect types.

Great 1900 attack as a defender of 1500. Very great stats, worth running in any insect deck. With Arsenal Bug ready, you better watch out what you step on...

icecold · Apr 1, 2005

cool story finish it its funny

Xeno · Apr 1, 2005

We can easily ignore them. Insects are no where near tourny class.

They already had 1800 atkers anyway.

DarkPaladin2k1 · Apr 1, 2005

Not so fast, though they do have extreme cards combos day after day, expect a surprise one of these days, and by the way finish the story Strike Ninja it really is funny

Xeno · Apr 1, 2005

Insect Combos are laughable at best.

They need some serious support, like Harpies obtained from RDS.

chaosruler · Apr 1, 2005

Pinch Hopper, Prickle Fairy, DNA Surgery, Insect Barrier, Insect Princess, Skull-Mark Ladybug, 4-Star Ladybug of Doom, Insect Imitation, Metal Armored Bug, Insect Knight, Insect Queen, The Trojan Horse, Parasite Paracide, Neo Bug, Arsenal Bug, Gaia Power, Jade Insect Whistle

Need I say more? (Xeno, I'm not trying to be snappy, but they do have support)

-chaosruler

Xeno · Apr 1, 2005

chaosruler said:
Pinch Hopper

The Insect "Marauding Captain". This card is definetly playable, though it has a dodgy "Archfiend of Gilfer" type condition in order to activate.

chaosruler said:
DNA Surgery

This card isn't unique to insects. Hardly a reason to run an insect deck.

chaosruler said:
Insect Barrier

A card that can just as easily be used against you.

chaosruler said:
Insect Princess

Useless without DNA Surgery or Creature Swap. It will get squashed (no pun intended).

chaosruler said:
Skull-Mark Ladybug

Like a trash version of Nimble Mong.

chaosruler said:
4-Star Ladybug of Doom

A card that will also potentially wipe out your own cards. Great.

choasruler said:
Insect Imitation

One of the tiny amount of playable insect cards. Though useless at trying to obtain high level monsters, the most powerful monster you're going to get is 1900 or 1800.

chaosruler said:
Metal Armored Bug

You're joking right?

chaosruler said:
Insect Knight

Can't go wrong with a well rounded monster, but they already had a 1800 atk beatstick, the increase in playability is tiny.

chaosruler said:
Insect Queen

Probably the worst insect out there. So every time you want to attack you need to tribute a monster? That's crazy. And then, when you destroy a enemy monster you get a tokken that raises your atk points by 200. That wouldn't be too bad if the tokken didn't have a pathetic 100atk pts, or if it wasn't summoned in ATK mode. You just pretty much given your opponent a direct attack on your life points.... which will also lower the Queen's atk points by 200 again.

chaosruler said:
The Trojan Horse

This isn't an insect support card.

chaosruler said:
Parasite Paracide

This card is no where near playable. You need to manually flip it yourself, so you are wasting resources protecting it.

chaosruler said:
Neo Bug

Another higher attacking non-tribute monster with absolutely no effect. Since there are plenty of 1900+ Lv4 monsters out there, most monsters under 1900 have some kind of effect to balanace it out... this doesn't.

chaosruler said:
Arsenal Bug

This monster is ok in a insect deck I guess.

chaosruler said:
Gaia Power

Since Warrior variants are the most popular deck types, not to mention the most common monsters in Yu-Gi Oh, you will be boosting your opponent as well.

chaosruler said:
Jade Insect Whistle

To be honest, I'm not even sure how this card works.

chaosruler said:
Need I say more? (Xeno, I'm not trying to be snappy, but they do have support)

I never said they don't have support cards, (even though half the cards you named are random insect monsters and not support cards), I said they are laughable at best.

Duelist 316 · Apr 1, 2005

Tis true. Insects have yet to become a playable archetype, at least in my eyes. When looking at a deck, unless you're a casual player, you have to ask yourself: "Could this deck win a Regional?" And insects certainly cannot at the moment. Hopefully they'll get some REAL support sometime soon.

Strollymonster · Apr 1, 2005

Insect's situations will improve when we get the "Mini-Serket" out of The Lost Millenium. It's a LV5 2000 ATK Insect (meaning that it's "Insect Imitation"-friendly) that gains 500 ATK every time it destroys a monster in battle. One kill for him puts him above Jinzo or any of the Monarchs. Two equals him with a Horus LV8 or a Blue Eyes White Dragon. To top it off, he's Metamorphosis-friendly.

It won't make them regional worthy, but it will give them a nice boost.

How can Insect Barrier be used against an Insect deck? Insect decks are the ONLY ones that play it. I suppose if someone was playing Exchange, there could be a problem, but that's about as likely than them playing Insect Barrier.

I think what Insects really need is a strong field spell, and maybe their own version of BLS. After all, Water decks are getting their own CED...

Jathro · Apr 1, 2005

Insect Barrier is meant to be played with DNA Surgery active. Prevent your opponent from attacking because they are all insects on his/her side of the field. This also benefits Insect Queen.

DNA Surgery + Insect Barrier + Insect Queen + Scapegoat. Granted, this is a very slow combo, but it has potential. Sacrifice the tokens and get a token when you destroy a monster with Insect Queen. Obviously you'd only want to do this with Insect Barrier on the field since, as Xeno pointed out, the tokens are summoned in ATK mode (unfortunately).

I don't yet think Insect decks are top tier in a tournament setting, but they could be lots of fun. And Chaosruler, don't forget Swarm of Scarabs and Swarm of Locusts. Plus we have Ultimate Insect LV1, 3, and 5 with 7 coming in The Lost Millenium.

P.S. - Jade Insect Whistle would be used when you have a Parasite Paracide that went into your opponent's deck.

chaosruler · Apr 1, 2005

Xeno- Skull-Mark Ladybug works if it is discarded or sent from the deck, so it isn't trash

4-Starred Ladybug of Doom
Effect Monster (Insect / WIND / 3 Stars / ATK 800 / DEF 1200)

FLIP: Destroy all face-up Level 4 monsters on your opponent's side of the field.

sorry for the large print, but it truly irritates me when people disregard cards without even reading them carefully. Also, for Metal Armored Bug, I was referring to the fact that he can be Pinch Hopper summoned, or use trojan Horse to summon him/Insect Queen.

I was a little iffy on them being Tier 1, maybe their higher Tier 2.

-chaosruler

Xeno · Apr 1, 2005

So I miss read one of the 12+ cards you named... over a year ago when I first read it.

SUE ME

chaosruler said:
Also, for Metal Armored Bug, I was referring to the fact that he can be Pinch Hopper summoned, or use trojan Horse to summon him/Insect Queen.

I know that, but unless you happen to have Pinch Hopper at the same time, and assuming your opponent doesn't exploit it's dodgy Archfiend of Glifer type loophole, this card is rubbish. Heck, most decks can't justify running 2 tribute monsters with great effects, nevermind lackluster ones.

And Insect Queen is without a doubt one of the worst monsters I've ever seen.

So basically, you have a deck with iffy combos that you'll never manage to pull off 4/5 of the time.

I looked at 4 different Yu-Gi Oh league tables, didn't find a single insect deck in the top 50 of any of them, before getting bored and watching a movie with my girlfriend.

Are Insects fun to play? Of course.

Do they have a chance in hell against Fiends, Zombies, ALO, nevermind Chaos variants and Warriors? *laughs hysterically* hell no.

Xeno · Apr 1, 2005

Jathro said:
Insect Barrier is meant to be played with DNA Surgery active. Prevent your opponent from attacking because they are all insects on his/her side of the field. This also benefits Insect Queen.

My (badly-phrased) point was that you add insect barriers to your deck when you're facing an insect player.

Jathro said:
DNA Surgery + Insect Barrier + Insect Queen + Scapegoat. Granted, this is a very slow combo, but it has potential. Sacrifice the tokens and get a token when you destroy a monster with Insect Queen. Obviously you'd only want to do this with Insect Barrier on the field since, as Xeno pointed out, the tokens are summoned in ATK mode (unfortunately).
.

Realistically, what are the odds of you pulling that combo of consistently?

chaosruler · Apr 1, 2005

Xeno -

I'm sorry, man

I didn't mean to go into rant mode on you, so sorry

-chaosruler

Xeno · Apr 1, 2005

chaosruler said:
Xeno -

I'm sorry, man

I didn't mean to go into rant mode on you, so sorry

-chaosruler

It's all good dude, if someone gets offended over a messageboard they probably shouldn't use one, and we're all passionate about the game which is a good thing.

chaosruler · Apr 1, 2005

Lol, I just felt I owed you an apology for that outburst, lol

-chaosruler

Xeno · Apr 1, 2005

chaosruler said:
Lol, I just felt I owed you an apology for that outburst, lol

-chaosruler

Well I appreciate the thought, but completely unnecessary.

Savyer · Apr 1, 2005

anyone forgetting Prickle Fairy,

IOC-077
Prickle Fairy
Plant
EARTH
Level 4
300 ATK
2000 DEF

Card Text Your opponent cannot attack Insect-Type monsters unless he/she destroys this card first. The Battle Position of a monster that battles with this card is changed to Defense Position at the end of the Damage Step.

With Dna Surgery you have got your opponit in a no attack lock, and a 2000 def is fairy hard to get past,

and with Insect imitation, the newest ultimate insect is a level 5,

StRiKe_NiNjA · Apr 2, 2005

C'mon people! Have we've forgotten about Arsenal Bug??

Arsenal Bug
EARTH/3/Atk2000/Def2000
[Insect/Effect]
If there are no face-up Insect-Type monsters (except this monster) on your side of the field, both the ATK and DEF of this monster become 1000 points.

Let me point something out. It's a Level 3, slips right under Gravity Bind, Level Limit - Area B, and it's a 2000 attacker, and not mention a 2000 defender if an insect is face-up on the field. Level 3 2000 Atk/Def, and I thought Giant Soldier of Stone was good when it was first released.

For now, I know their isn't any insect support type cards, but who needs to have all "insect supported"? Your attack force can be insects, with control typed selected cards.

Dark Magician's has alot of support... but who run's 3 Knight's Title or 3 Thousand Knives or 3 Dark Magic Attacks? Horrible draws of course...

Control styled Insect deck

Summon Pinch Hopper, activate Creature Swap, attack your own Pinch Hopper, swarm with Metal Armored Bug.

Have 2 face-up Arsenal Bugs and attack your opponent who runs those common Burn decks who control 2 face-up Level Area - Limit B and 1 face-up Gravity Bind and smack your opponent around with 2000 points.

If your opponent's field is wide open, attack directly with Pinch Hopper for 1000, Ring of Destruction for 1000, then Special Summon Metal Armored Bug with the effect and smack your opponent with 2800. The have Arsenal Bug who so happens to be face-up on the field and smack em again for 2000.

Insect Knight FET-EN004

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