Is Lightning vortex a good card?

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greeneyescat

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Can I have everyones opinion on lightning vortex? Some people have advice me to take it out of my deck for a smashing ground.

I think I should not, but want to have a second opinion.
 
It depends. It only effects face up cards, and you have to discard a card to do it. If your deck:
Likes having cards in the graveyard
Likes discarding from the hand
Plays something like Light of Intervention so all they're cards are face up
A side deck against Swarm decks.

it's a great card. Otherwise, not so much. It's the requirement that they be face-up and the discard they don't like. It really comes down to personal preference. Do you like Hand Management or Field Control better? In the last advanced format, proper Hand management was a must, and field control was a great thing (but not as big/necessary) with the new format, after the recent ban list came out, it's pretty much the reverse. The card is better now. It still comes down to personal preference though.

You're local meta makes a big difference too. If there is a lot of hand control or if they play all their monsters face-down (and you don't run LoI) don't use it. If they perfer swarm decks, decks that rely on face-up cards, or (IMO) Warrior decks and decks with 3 Spirit Reapers, it's a good card.

If YOU like it, use it. If you don't, then don't.
 
I could see that working well in a GK deck. Anything in your graveyard you can bring back, and anything they lose is probably gone for good. Since gravekeepers even have their own special summon card, tossing a monster wouldn't be a bad thing.

Do you know what type of decks people play in your area? For example, in my area it's pretty much Monarchs, with and without soul control, Warrior decks, and CC decks that have no theme whatsoever, but won other regionals/SJC (you know, ones with Spirit Reapers, D.D. monsters, and Mobius's out the wazoo. They're "Control" decks, but really no central theme.) It would have been a good card against the decks I played at my local regionals. If you can tell me what kinds of decks are big in your area, we could probably decide whether or not it's a good main deck or side deck card. Also, what do you usually discard when you play it, and how many face-up monsters do they usually have on the field? (Your personal playing style makes a big difference in choosing cards)
 
In my area there are many different kind of deck. Basicly because everyone wants to be unique. The good ones are chaos decks, but mainly light and dark. This decks do not run many non-light or dark mounsters. Fiend type deks that do really run many staples as breaker, exiled, mobius, Morphing Jar, etc, warriors and zombies.

The though here is a deck with a theme runs better than a deck made out of many cards. A least at the local store tournaments ran twice a week, no one with a deck like the ones that win the world championship has ever won this tournaments. The closest is a guy who runs just light and dark mounsters, no other, chaos deck.

My deck is one of the top ones, I win ones in a while and does not get bitten very badly unless i make silly mistakes (which happens sometimes). I can say I have a fairly good deck.

When I use Lightning Vortex, I usually try to send a gravekeeper since I can bring him back with Rite of Spirit or the chief. I use night assaliant when I have it.

Here is the link for my deck, tell me your oppinion.

http://www.cogonline.net/threads.14246
 
Lightning Vortex is good, bad, or okay depending on how you use it.

Good Lightning Vortex is destroying three or more monsters. Actually, that's excellent.

Okay Lightning Vortex is destroying two monsters. That's going to be the most commonly seen scenario.

Bad Lightning Vortex is destroying one monster. That's losing you advantage and should only be used in desperate or game-winning situations.

It also depends on what you discard. If it's something like Night Assailant while you have a Magician of Faith in the graveyard, that's good. But if it's something like Dark Hole, that's pretty bad.

So it all depends on how you choose to use it. It requires timing, and most people don't want to wait for that because they want monsters destroyed yesterday and without thinking. So just think about when you use it and how you use it. You'll be fine.
 
I took a look at your deck. As long as you play it right, it should work out great for you. Just rmember the "good, the bad, and the okay" chaos general gave you. Nice GK deck, by the way.
 
It is how you play it that makes it good. Getting rid of one monster is a bad use of it, unless of course you honestly have nothing to get rid of say a Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon or Cyber End Dragon at 8000 ATK. You should at least use it to get rid of 2 or more monsters. The only reason this card is not being played anymore is because Dark Hole is back. The second Dark Hole goes away everyone will put it in their Deck again.
 
greeneyescat said:
Then will it be good to run both Lightning Vortex and Dark Hole, or just one?
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It is up to you. We all know how everyone jumped on Dark Hole and forgot about Lightning Vortex. People use their Smashing Grounds for I do not know why over Fissure now too. I would say use Dark Hole over it while you can. I use Lightning Vortex in my Decks because I would not want to get used to Dark Hole for it to be taken from me come next Restriction List update or something.
 
This thread belongs in General Discussion (YGO). You want to continue your discussion there. *waves hand all Jedi-like* :ninja:
 
That question caught my attention seeing that your deck isn't posted I can't give you an answer but thats what this card depends on.
 
I think ultimately it depends on how much you're going to destroy with Lightning Vortex. To even out the discard, and L.V. itself, you would have to destroy at least 2 monsters. Smashing is a 1 for 1, plain and simple.

One isn't necessarily "better" than the other. They both destroy monsters, after all. Which one gives you the most benefit; that's how you should decide.
 
Lv is mass removal. Smashing isnt.

their both good. but there comes a time were the opponent has 5 creatures or some how got so many and your like, jezz i wished i had Dark Hole or something that can get the job done.

well thats were LV comes into play. its not the best card in the world. but lately what card actually is?

even Sakuretsu Armor, its good but not godly. everything lately isnt game breaking to cause an uproar. its just that people dont want to run certain things since people are too stuck up to think for them selves.

THink about it. before metagame made the 3x decree trap line up look like it was nothing and 3x Dust Tornado was the best thing in the world. Nobody wanted to run 3x Dust Tornado. and if you look at the first list, how many people run 3x Dust Tornado? not that many.

not to mention, people that get caught off guard with Dust Tornado really cant think out side of the box.

i was playing a friend of mine that is runing multiple decrees like i am, and i play call, he says royal, i said MST, to my luck he then flips the card next to the decree over to reveal another Royal Decree.

now what is the luck in that one? think about it, even if that MST was a Dust Tornado what would it have done for me?

i dont know, im a fan of using multiple decrees and alot of spells. I see mobious, It cant attack becuase of Soul Exchange, so i do the ovious next turn, smash the daylights out of it.
 
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